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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Sep 22, 2013 - 09:34pm PT
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Chim-Chim wrote: Bob just read the post and the malority of the posters
Which is a very small per-cent of the climbing population.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Sep 22, 2013 - 09:35pm PT
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More laws = fewer first ascents.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Sep 22, 2013 - 09:41pm PT
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Most famous routes in the 70's were freed using fixed protection left from aid ascents.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Sep 22, 2013 - 09:44pm PT
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The fixed points were then and still are far and few between. And, when they were left, not near enough to aid thru those segments.
Let's face it,
Your world view as expressed here and politically is that the world is a scarey place and it's the collective's responsibility to make you feel secure.
(just as long as someone else pays for it)
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Sep 22, 2013 - 09:48pm PT
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Chim...I agree with Joe view from visiting many different climbing areas.
Not just from the posters on this thread.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Sep 22, 2013 - 09:51pm PT
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Your world view as expressed here and politically is that the world is a scarey place and it's the collective's responsibility to make you feel secure.
Almost like we shouldn't own guns but instead just rely on the police,..
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Sep 22, 2013 - 09:56pm PT
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2 EZ!
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Sep 22, 2013 - 09:57pm PT
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Ron wrote: Almost like we shouldn't own guns but instead just rely on the police,..
What most first world countries do but hey, what do they know?
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Sep 22, 2013 - 10:05pm PT
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Chim-Chim wrote: So, I'm stupid?
Never said that, I just don't agree with your take on this.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Sep 22, 2013 - 10:19pm PT
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Thanks Chim, hope all is well?
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johnkelley
climber
Anchorage Alaska
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Sep 22, 2013 - 10:24pm PT
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
Sep 22, 2013 - 06:48pm PT
"Chim...I agree with Joe view from visiting many different climbing areas.
Not just from the posters on this thread."
No surprise coming from Bolting Bob
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Sep 22, 2013 - 10:30pm PT
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John Kelly wrote: No surprise coming from Bolting Bob
Funny coming from a snow-slogger.
John...you and I can compare hard (5.11/5.12) trad ascents anytime you want.
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johnkelley
climber
Anchorage Alaska
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Sep 22, 2013 - 10:40pm PT
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
Sep 22, 2013 - 07:30pm PT
"John...you and I can't compare hard (5.11/5.12) trad ascents anytime you want."
You might be surprised. However it would be more fun to compare big routes or alpine routes. Let's compare grade VI alpine FA's we've done Bolting Bob. That's what they call you right? Not Brave Bob, not Bold Bob, nope it's Bolting Bob for a reason.
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johnkelley
climber
Anchorage Alaska
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Sep 22, 2013 - 10:44pm PT
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Another 5,000' slog on a virgin peak
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Sep 22, 2013 - 10:46pm PT
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JKelly wrote: Another 5,000' slog on a virgin peak
Using aid...way to go tough guy.
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johnkelley
climber
Anchorage Alaska
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Sep 22, 2013 - 10:47pm PT
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Ice tools are aid but a power drill isn't?
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Sep 22, 2013 - 10:56pm PT
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Ice tools.....bah, humbug. What has happened to today's youth? Why, in my day, we did perfectly well allowing are wool mitts to get wet and then conveniently freeze to the ice.
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johnkelley
climber
Anchorage Alaska
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Sep 22, 2013 - 11:13pm PT
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Jim soon, if Hedge and Bolting Bob have their way, you'll be able to do it with a bolt above your head the whole time. You'll be completely safe and in compliance with ADA standards.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Sep 22, 2013 - 11:50pm PT
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John...you are not worth getting into a pissing match.
Name calling is all you got.
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johnkelley
climber
Anchorage Alaska
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Sep 22, 2013 - 11:56pm PT
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Haha don't like your nickname? You certainly earned it
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