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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Jul 27, 2012 - 05:47pm PT
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How come they say my guns are cool then?
I've got a Galil!
Fourth request; please define your term.
EDIT
In your next post you talk of changing the subject,....
(sort of like the way YOU did about your "importation ban")
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monolith
climber
albany,ca
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Jul 27, 2012 - 05:49pm PT
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Fine, call them semi-automatic rifles.
Now that the wordplay is over, how do you feel about the easy access to guns by psychiatric patients like Holmes?
Or do you want to try to change the subject again?
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Jul 27, 2012 - 05:50pm PT
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You mean a semi-auto like a .22 with a fixed tube magazine?
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monolith
climber
albany,ca
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Jul 27, 2012 - 05:51pm PT
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When I say 'guns' i mean guns.
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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Jul 27, 2012 - 05:51pm PT
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Saw that earlier today Cragman.
I commend the guy with the gun that he didn't just start shooting. Well trained. Sometimes events are not what they appear and when someone starts just shooting a 'good guy' can get injured (e.g., undercover police officer).
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Jul 27, 2012 - 05:57pm PT
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Uh-oh monolith has just classified my friend's Sears and Roebuck .22 that his grandfather bought for $12.99 as an assault weapon!!!
Better call ATF!
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monolith
climber
albany,ca
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Jul 27, 2012 - 06:00pm PT
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Still with the wordplay.
Read the first post, I said guns, particularly assault weapons, which we can now call 'semi-automatic rifles'.
Now, do you think psychiatric patients like Holmes should have such easy access to guns?
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Shack
Big Wall climber
Reno NV
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Jul 27, 2012 - 06:01pm PT
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Yeah, my tube fed Marlin .22 I got when I was a kid is now an assault weapon...WooHoo!
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Gary
climber
"My god - it's full of stars!"
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Jul 27, 2012 - 06:04pm PT
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and if it is Romney chances are my portfolio will improve too.
Not really. You'd better look into the market and how it does under Dems and Repubs historically. You'll find your portfolio will increase a third MORE under Democrats. So if you vote Obama, your portfolio and your gun stash will increase. It's a win-win!
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Jul 27, 2012 - 06:08pm PT
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Gary,
the future is ahead.
Dump the rear view mirror.
Yeah Shack. Thats what happens when the ignorant get to write the regs!
Look, if Holmes was spouting violent talk then a psychiatrist could have said something and, technically, the box on the application if checked would deny the sale.
But lets be real.
we would all like to live in a safe and perfect world, but every time you step out the door you are at risk.
Sometimes even if you don't.
Some choose to wring their hands, cry, and assign fault to inanimate objects.
Others prefer to at least attempt to be the masters of their own ships.
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monolith
climber
albany,ca
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Jul 27, 2012 - 06:09pm PT
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Clearly, not an effective system.
Man up and say we have to endure massacres to protect our easy access freedoms.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Jul 27, 2012 - 06:10pm PT
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We have to be wary of nutcases to protect our freedoms.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Jul 27, 2012 - 06:16pm PT
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Nuclear weapons and nerve gas are inanimate objects.....let's add them to the mix, but only if people promise to behave.
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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Jul 27, 2012 - 06:19pm PT
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Type of weapon matters.
People use guns because they are effective. If not, all the firearm owners here would just keep rocks by their beds. They don't because a rock or an axe or bear spray would not as effectively stop an intruder.
edit:
But even if we could devise a perfect way to week out psychopaths, it wouldn't be enough. It's not a static state. Perfectly non-psychoth-people sometimes become psychopaths. And current psychopaths can change too. How to deal with the fluidity of that?
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Jul 27, 2012 - 06:36pm PT
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Graffiti in a 23rd century bathroom;
"Rayguns don't kill people. PEOPLE kill people."
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monolith
climber
albany,ca
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Jul 27, 2012 - 06:44pm PT
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And once one is classified as a psychopath, how do they get off the list?
Which means it will be tougher to get them on the list to begin with.
It's more arbitrary decisions, much like the ones that put certain guns and not others in the 'assault weapon' list.
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michaeld
Sport climber
Sacramento
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Jul 27, 2012 - 06:46pm PT
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If the Soviets knew the Americans didn't have a gun behind every door, they'd of invaded us in the Cold War. And peace signs in the 23rd century would have looked like this:
Monolith:
I think they need to redo the entire system, based off the Driver's License.
When you purchase a gun, it goes through the DMV, like most things do now.
When you check into a mental institution, your Driver's License should be flagged, linking a list of all your registered guns. They should be taken from you until you're sane again.
And your driver's license pulled, until you're sane again.
Oh god, now the pro gun people are gonna hate me.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Jul 27, 2012 - 06:48pm PT
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You'll never hear Gun People use the term "assault weapon" because it's a stupid term.
A weapon that cannot be used to assault someone isn't much of a weapon. Now is it?
Walk into any gun store and ask to see their selection of *assault weapons*, and see what happens.
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paul roehl
Boulder climber
california
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Jul 27, 2012 - 06:49pm PT
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Nuclear weapons don't kill people, people kill people... still I don't want my neighbor to keep one in his garage. You can't ignore the simple fact that weapons are dangerous. Personal freedom is a function of population. You want to live in an isolated place then you should be able to have all the weaponry you can afford. You live in a crowded city then there are/should be restrictions.
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michaeld
Sport climber
Sacramento
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Jul 27, 2012 - 06:50pm PT
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Lol, Chaz. Walk into a gun store and ask to look at their tactical gun selection.
-.- I felt like such a gumby when my friend asked that.
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