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raymond phule
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Where can I find similar graphs for other areas and altitudes?
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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You are a little behind the times with your pick for propaganda Joe. Im as conservative as they come, also been using florescents for much longer than they've been mandated. We are on to using LED's quite a bit now. The average home today uses 60% less energy per s.f. than in 1990, we shoot for 70-75%. It is all about controlling consumption for affordability. Waste not, want not.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Rick, Ron, and The Chief, are trolling, or are completely snowed by big money.
I don't know for sure, Coz, but from what I can tell all three of those guys are far from well off financially, and don't have any big money coming their way!
Trolling?
Well, yes, the Chief readily admits to trolling and considers it good personal entertainment, he has said he intentionally does so just to get emotional responses, he likes playing here.
I suspect Ron and Rick are not trolling but honestly believe what they post and are absolutely not amendable to being convinced otherwise, regardless of any mountains of opposing proof and facts.
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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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Ed:
...however, there are many sites that provide local temperature time series... Chiloe often uses them in plots (look up thread)
A good general source for long-term, quality-controlled weather station data is the US Historical Climatology Network,
http://cdiac.ornl.gov/epubs/ndp/ushcn/ushcn_map_interface.html
The Arctic melt season is kicking into gear this month, lots of eyes watching the ice to see what happens after last year's record-shattering attrition.
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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Yeah Ron it takes organics and increased cosmic ray bombardment, which is what would happen with a lessened solar magnetic value during a minimum in the 11 year cycle or the onset of reduced activity of a longer solar cycle such as the Dalton or Maunder minimums, or maybe a reduction in earths geo magnetic field.
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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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LOL, Chief, that spike is the last pixel column on the graph, and you are able to tell that temps will hold steady and drop?
Whoa! You should work for the psychic network.
No comment on global ocean heat content? How come it's not steady?
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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Well guys i checked the sunspot numbers and they are up to 78.7 for the month of May, thats beyond the projected smoothed max of 66. So does this rule out the suns magnetic flux in formation of the early and lower latitude noctilucent cloud formation? Anyone no the cause of this anomaly?
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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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Pay attention to levels of CO2 that have never happened before in man's history, Chief, because CO2 is well correlated to temps, as your graph shows. Only the last few pixel columns covers the industrial age.
The ocean heat content blue line is also rising, and no comment from you.
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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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But why would we want to revert to no ice periods (and all the disturbances associated with it) if we can avoid it?
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dirtbag
climber
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You are sooooooooooo ignorant.
LOL.
Pot, kettle, black...
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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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I knew the Chief would crack.
No ice (and the associated impact) is the present and avoidable danger, not 6k of ice in 2/3rds northern hemisphere. (
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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I know that gal in your post above Bruce. Helped to install her as mayor to replace the former crooked 2 term mayor who was looting the town and standing in the way of sensible development. She is nothing like you like to portray.
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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All politicians are made up persona's. Every one of them. She got trashed but then decided to laugh all the way to the bank. Currently resides in arizona and will probably take a senate seat from their, i imagine, if old num nuts gets out of the way.
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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Jun 10, 2013 - 12:07am PT
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I have been doing my own impromptu polling in my repeated travels about the country and i would say it is a lot more than 46%. Most people think it is a joke and chalk it up to crooked politicians, corporate and the wealthy's greed, and job security for the platoons of graduates of the environmental sciences. A sad, sad commentary on the state of our corrupt civilization.I even talked with a couple australians, germans, indians, and brits who all seemed to concur on the buffoonery of it all.Now, did you read those papers whose links i posted?And yes excuse me, i thought you were talking about percentage of belief in CAGW.The election of 2008, as many elections these days was decided by platoons of undocumentable democrats as well as the ignorant, innocent, insecure and of course the die hard party hacks. Come to think about it if the other team would of won it would have been by much the same constituency. Some choice we have now days.
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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Jun 10, 2013 - 04:18pm PT
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So true Ron. Glad you brought this to everyones attention. Let's hope the few true CAGW believers on this thread take the time to read, then independently take the time to reach the inescapable conclusion-CAGW is "forced science fiction" designed for the purpose of enriching the few while pilfering from the many.
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dirtbag
climber
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Jun 10, 2013 - 04:33pm PT
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Ron, alternative views are vetted where they should be vetted: by other scientists through the peer review process.
You seem more comfortable seeking out facts that support your worldview in right wing paranoid rags.
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