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Escopeta
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Idaho
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Jun 17, 2016 - 08:09am PT
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We tried?
Were there lots of gasoline mass killing when we tried?
You really need to bone up on your history to engage in this conversation....
The three most damaging terrorist bombing attacks on US soil (and for the record I'm including 9/11 in that) as well as a whole host of bombings, molotov cocktail attacks and non-fire arms related mass killings occurred in the US during the assault weapons ban timeframe. (1994-2004)
So yes, we tried it.
On Sunday June 12th, an estimated 1.9 MILLION Ar-15 style weapons sat in peoples safes and spent the day collecting dust. One of them was picked up by a crazy person and used in a horrific crime.
What was the one difference between the 1.9 million guns and the 1 gun?
How about we start there?
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monolith
climber
state of being
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Jun 17, 2016 - 08:10am PT
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How about we stop with the fantasies about gasoline replacing assault weopens?
And of course you would include 9/11. What an idiot.
We took tougher restrictions on air security after 9/11.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Jun 17, 2016 - 08:20am PT
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So, you're agreeing that we tried and it didn't work? Awesome, what's next?
Did you forget about the assault weapons ban that went on for 10 years or were you hoping that wouldn't get brought up? What an idiot.
How about we stop with the fantasies about gasoline replacing assault weopens?
As soon as you stop the fantasies about assault weapons bans having not been tried.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jun 17, 2016 - 08:35am PT
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Gary, I'll out myself on my schedule, thank you.
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 17, 2016 - 08:42am PT
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On Sunday June 12th, an estimated 1.9 MILLION Ar-15 style weapons sat in peoples safes and spent the day collecting dust. One of them was picked up by a crazy person and used in a horrific crime.
What was the one difference between the 1.9 million guns and the 1 gun?
How about we start there?
How about we look at the reasons why laws related to AR-15s should remain intact.
I got nothing.
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monolith
climber
state of being
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Jun 17, 2016 - 08:47am PT
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We should thank the victims for their sacrifice in helping to keep America free.
It's nice to know that lots more assault weapons are safely then actually used to kill.
Nancy Lanza had a safe as well.
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Jun 17, 2016 - 08:52am PT
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Let us not forget that the Orlando killer fled to a bathroom because someone with a firearm shooting back at him sent him there to cower.
Of the 100 people hit or killed there will be a percentage of innocents hit or killed by police gunfire as well. Judging from the pockmarked concrete wall the police were spraying and praying quite a bit themselves. Of course friendly fire happens but it's interesting there's no mention of it.
People that believe banning anything will somehow thwart evil simply have small minds and/or very thick rose colored glasses.
We should be glad the madman chose a rifle in this case. With very little planning he could have burned them all to death.
Terrorists strike around the world using any manner of explosives, fire, and firearms with no regard for local laws.
1)Run
2)Die
3)Fight back
pick one.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Jun 17, 2016 - 08:53am PT
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Looks to me like the assault weapons ban was successful for larger killings.
Really? Good grief.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Jun 17, 2016 - 08:58am PT
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But aren't bombs banned? You are the one that made the claim that the assault weapons ban was successful. That bomber killed more people in one event than the Colorado Movie Shooter, Orlando and that idiot in Connecticut COMBINED and DOUBLED.
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monolith
climber
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Jun 17, 2016 - 08:59am PT
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Lots of restrictions were placed on ammonium nitrate purchases after the okc bombing.
Did you think the assault weapon ban drove the killer to use a bomb?
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Jun 17, 2016 - 09:05am PT
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And go figure, someone still bombed the Boston Marathon.
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monolith
climber
state of being
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Jun 17, 2016 - 09:07am PT
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Another bombing requring much skill, research, and practice.
Those bombing statistics must be massive.
How many mass killings by bombs have their been in the US?
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Jun 17, 2016 - 09:11am PT
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So, that is your argument? The level of skill required to kill people and we should advocate for the regulation of those things?
I've heard a lot of absurd arguments, but that one might take the cake.
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monolith
climber
state of being
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Jun 17, 2016 - 09:13am PT
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We go after the low hanging fruit first, Esco.
Place restrictions on the ability for unskilled people to easily get machinery designed for killing to do mass killings.
I know you'll be here all day, Esco. See you later.
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 17, 2016 - 09:16am PT
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So, that is your argument? The level of skill required to kill people and we should advocate for the regulation of those things?
I've heard a lot of absurd arguments, but that one might take the cake.
I think the argument is making and effectively detonating a bomb is a much more involved process.
Buying a gun is easy. Why not do something about it?
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Jun 17, 2016 - 09:16am PT
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Sounds great. Which people?
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
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Jun 17, 2016 - 10:27am PT
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No beard. I think Mr Cartoon guy is a fake just trying to get a sympathy lay.
Susan
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Gary
Social climber
Where in the hell is Major Kong?
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Jun 17, 2016 - 10:37am PT
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Gary, I'll out myself on my schedule, thank you.
Reilly, really I didn't know conservative PM Neville Chamberlain was closeted, but from the way he holds that scrap of paper...
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