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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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May 31, 2013 - 08:28pm PT
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as will Westboro Baptist Church
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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If the sun happened to dip below all observed activity for any significant period of time, if this corresponded with a low in geomagnetic activity, and if we happened to be recipient of an unusually high Cr flux, well the results would be catastrophic truly. I appreciated all the corroborating articles/papers on my "intuition" of atmospheric changes doe to solar and extra solar energies in relation to magnetic variation, but i know you like a good argument and are likely to bait and switch, Ed.
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McHale's Navy
Trad climber
From Panorama City, CA
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Good subject matter New World Order. You can bet this is being looked at seriously. I was at a party where there were a number of environmental researchers a few years ago and was very surprised that some of them thought this was going to be the solution, or at least part of it. It was like, " Oh yeah, that's what we'll be doing." It was too matter of fact for me. It was depressing because the notion seems to be that since we can't control ourselves we will be looking to these reactive solutions. These solutions will take us down the wrong path.
That's pretty scary Bruce!
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abrams
Sport climber
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Enviro's like to dream of the day when wind and solar replace burning carbon
for electricity. But few will accept their lights going out at sunset or when the wind stops blowing.
The question here is why the owners of those clean energy systems
are not required to build in equivalent 'spinning reserve' capacity?
The fossil fuel energy guys have to do it.
http://www.linkedin.com/groups/Calculating-cost-solar-wind-dont-3676376.S.187931243
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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Here is some interesting reading for you guys. A physicist named Weather Phil on this thread. He goes long on predictions for a distinct cooling period we are entering and provides his own theories backed up with peer reviewed papers. Quite a bit to take in, but very interesting.
http://westernusawx.info/forums/index.php?showtopic=33725
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Dr. Christ
Mountain climber
State of Mine
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We used to have glaciers and dinosaurs in tropical jungles. Anything short of those two extremes is just natural variability... which can easily be explained by ANYTHING except anthropogenic CO2. Why you ask? Well, because nobody knows anything with absolute certainty... so Joe the plumbers guess is as good as any scientist's.
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dirtbag
climber
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^^^^^^Stupid post.
Would you want joe the plumber doing brain surgery, too? After all, his opinion is just as good as anyone else's.
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mountainlion
Trad climber
California
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Everything can be explained when you look at the FACT that the world is less than 10,000 years old...Humans and Dinosaurs walked the earth at the same time (evolution is junk science). The world was created in just 6 days with one day to rest and reflect on the beauty of the creation.
Everything went to hell in a bucket when Eve (evil) ate an apple given to her by a snake--that's when we realized we were naked and not like the dumb animals...shortly after we invented gun powder and killed off the dinosaurs, wolves, bears, and anything else that we could use to decorate our houses (that's right there was a BIG market for TAXIDERMY--imagine the skill needed to mount a T-Rex head in a life like manner).
Tornadoes, Hurricanes, Earthquakes have been increasing in power and number due to our lack of human sacrifice...we have made the one true god angry (he-- is a man not a female--is mad as hell and won't take it anymore) so we have to suffer.
This is obvious to the astute observer...Christian Science has proven this beyond all doubt!!!
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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Thought i would bring to your guys attention debates on other threads. I knew the guy was going long but i left the vetting to you.Personally, i don't care about peoples religious affiliations, just about their ideas and if they stand up to scrutiny as judged by the real world conditions.Below is a link to an article, a little more mainstream, that asks a lot of questions for needed research going forward.
http://www.astrobio.net/pressrelease/5290/
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Dr. Christ
Mountain climber
State of Mine
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Everything went to hell in a bucket when Eve (evil) ate an apple given to her by a snake...
The fruit was not an apple... and the spitting serpent was not a snake. Eve snowballed Adam and god is strictly opposed to oral sex. If you allow anything other than vaginal sex, next thing you know everyone will turn gay and want to marry their stuffed animals.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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and god is strictly opposed to oral sex.
wow, I had no idea!
care to direct me to the bible passage?
it that the one next to the one where god commands us to murder entire towns?
Comfort the afflicted, and afflict the comfortable
John
8;22:50
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Dr. Christ
Mountain climber
State of Mine
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I stand corrected:
Psalm 81:10
Open your mouth wide, and I will fill it.
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J man
Trad climber
morgan hill
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The counter argument to increasing weather disasters is that people are living everywhere now and random storms have a much better chance of wrecking houses simply because there are structures in the way where previously only empty land existed.
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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What the hell is thread devolving to? Are we talking Church of the Rock, Black Dike sect- Reverend Trans Vestite officiatinbg?
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J man
Trad climber
morgan hill
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Tornado Proof buildings? No such thing? Well wrong. There are and discovering it has set my sympathy meter down a half notch for the victims in OK.
Google search and there are lots of tornado proof school buildings,
homes, businesses, all over. Apparently not a secret.
Called Monolithic Domes. A reinforced concrete dome insulated with foam.
Some look better than others depending on how its decorated but given a choice of either standing in front of a pile of rubble that was my
ordinary wood frame home before the tornado or an intact dome I'd pick the dome.
(US school domes map link)
https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=203944397190240592382.000464b0fac8cef5d4111&msa=0
(info)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monolithic_dome
The dome, when finished, is earthquake, tornado and hurricane resistant (the US Federal Emergency Management Agency rates them as
"near-absolute protection" from F5 tornadoes
and Category 5 Hurricanes). Recently, a number of monolithic domes constructed using MDI techniques have survived major disasters:
Several monolithic domes in Florida survived direct hits by Hurricane Katrina in 2005.
Many monolithic domes were in the path of the 2005 and 2006 wildfires in Oklahoma and Texas, and survived with only slight charring of the exterior foam insulation.
In 2003, a monolithic dome government building in Iraq survived a direct hit by a 5,000 lb (2,300 kg). bomb. The interior of the structure burned, but the dome itself remained standing.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Just checking in.
Is this thread taking on religious overtones?
What does Daoism have to say?
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J man
Trad climber
morgan hill
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I think some here want to let scientists perform a stupid ritual sacrifice
of the economy by raising fuel prices out of reach to reduce CO2.
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