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Caveman
climber
Cumberland Plateau
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Feb 23, 2009 - 12:12pm PT
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"Someone want to step up to the mic and announce what kind of
plane this was?"
A hotrod. A thing of beauty. Not that hard to fly, just a bit harder than normal to take off and land. (Howard 500)
I can certainly see why this aircraft was used.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_500
"General characteristics
Crew: Two (pilot and co-pilot)
Capacity: 19 passengers
Length: 60 ft 6 in (17.82 m)
Wingspan: 72 ft 4 in (21.44 m)
Height: 14 ft 0 in (4.27 m)
Empty weight: 24,000 lb (10,910 kg)
Gross weight: 34,565 lb (15,710 kg)
Powerplant: 2 × Pratt & Whitney R-2800-CB17, 2,500 hp (1,870 kW) each"
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Licky
Mountain climber
California
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 23, 2009 - 06:32pm PT
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Hey Rok...nice lead in for the next subject. That plane Sky King
flew was called a Queen Air. They (the Gliskys) also flew one of
those for hauling cargo. Fully gutted and lined with plastic.
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dinerogrande
Social climber
Mexico
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Feb 23, 2009 - 09:01pm PT
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Out of the clear blue of the western sky comes Sky King...
For what it's worth..according to 50's web tv info....
In the earlier episodes, Sky King's plane was a Cessna T-50 twin-engine "Bamboo Bomber." The more familiar plane was Songbird, a Cessna 310B
Sadly, actor Kirby Grant (Sky King) died in 1985 in an automobile accident while on his way to watch a launch of the Space Shuttle Challenger at Cape Canaveral. He was to be honored by the shuttle astronauts for his achievements in encouraging aviation and space flight.
As I recall not a good day for the Challenger crew either.
C.A.
http://www.tvacres.com/aircraft_civilian_songbird.htm
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Licky
Mountain climber
California
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 23, 2009 - 09:33pm PT
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The things you learn on SuperTaco!
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his badness
climber
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Feb 23, 2009 - 11:45pm PT
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***Dearest Licky and his sidekick Dinerogrande (Super Taco),
I do not get on here often but everytime I do, It upsets me and I am amazed at the lack of your facts. I have always been here for the truth. Your two are bantering over this Walter Shaeffer(?) individual---never heard of him... He must be your "missing link"? You can take the measurements of a Howard 500/ Lockeed Loadstar, the size of a lake, various slide shows, ranger accounts, initials of people you have never meet or never will... What ever accounts you have, started when the plane hit the trees and carshed into the lake---before that you have NOTHING but false information and speculation. I have just read, Licky, your orginal line of this crash---and this goes for you, too, Super Taco and the information you SEEK, you still DO NOT have! Interview who you wish and you will find just an bunch of "wanna be's" that never were and never will be "the truth"! "First one to the bank wins" is that what you two all all about? How about the first one to THE TRUTH WINS? Did you ever think about that or is it all greed for you two?
Licky, the Queen Air is a twin engine, tricycle gear airplane and Skyking's plane was a split-tail, tail dragger. You said the Glisky's did runs in that plane? I have never met Pam and God bless her and her daughter for having to go through all this but I did not know she had a pilot's lic. and flew missions with Jon? Who told you it was "gutted" and had plastic down? What does gutted mean? Sounds like a fairy tale from the truth. I was around that airplane many times and never saw Pam or a bunch of plastic???????
Dinerogrande, please try to drop more than initials---very interesting to the masses. What about to and from and who and when? Keep searching....you and Licky and trying to pan gold out of tap water... Good Luck, The Duke of Badness.
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Licky
Mountain climber
California
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 24, 2009 - 12:40am PT
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Well, I guess that is the end to this story. I wish all well,
thanks for the run, it was fun.
NOT
Nor do I flame here, but selective reading like selective memory
can be debilitating
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dinerogrande
Social climber
Mexico
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Feb 24, 2009 - 12:48am PT
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Mr. B.
If you check MY posts, the only "facts" I presented here, were initials. I stand by that post as factual info. If you are in the know, email me directly. I'm confident that I can convince you. I have a feeling I know who you are. I do not wish to air discussions containing any details here. As for the Walter Shaeffer subject, or who flew what plane, how many 500's does it take to unscrew a lightbulb, etc. etc .... again, please, check my posts. I'm pleading not guilty, on all counts.
Hope to hear from you soon.
C.A.
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Wonder
climber
WA
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Feb 24, 2009 - 12:53am PT
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Whoa the plot thickens - heavy hitters.
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Caveman
climber
Cumberland Plateau
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Feb 24, 2009 - 12:55am PT
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They're hitting something!
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Licky
Mountain climber
California
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 24, 2009 - 03:36am PT
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I'm ducking and weaving, shaking in my boots, wondering if
Obama knows about this and if so, can I get a bale out?
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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Feb 24, 2009 - 05:46am PT
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"bale out"-haha!
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MisterE
Trad climber
One Place or Another
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Feb 25, 2009 - 12:03pm PT
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Mysterious bump
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dmalloy
Trad climber
eastside
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Feb 26, 2009 - 09:02pm PT
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just for anyone else reading, ^^^ that is not an interesting video, altho the live Alanis Morrissette soundtrack is also not interesting.
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Feb 26, 2009 - 09:03pm PT
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Nice vid, but I could do without the audio (I did knott waste one second hitting the mute button)...
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Licky
Mountain climber
California
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 26, 2009 - 09:09pm PT
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If I had control over things like the audio I'd have beat everyone
to it.
As for the video not being interesting I know its tough when
someone says "change the channel", but its always an option.
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Licky
Mountain climber
California
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 26, 2009 - 09:19pm PT
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No Rok, its a flight simulator that a couple of guys put together.
The image of the plane is based on the only, still flying
Howard 500 that is based in Minnisoda.
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Licky
Mountain climber
California
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 26, 2009 - 10:08pm PT
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N80BD was the N or tail number.
Doing a look up on each Howard 500 might be an interesting side note.
I have the entire list of their tail numbers as well as serial numbers.
Think I'll do that.
Thanks for the thought.
As I look at the production notes, this plane was the 4th to come
off the production line. If you can call it a production line.
By the way, here is an interesting (word used loosely) bit of data
for the Howard 500.
At only 44% power, the air speed at 16,000 feet was 330mph.
The Howard 500's maximum cruising speed was 350mph at 21,000 feet.
You see, this was a pressurized aircraft
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sidmo
Sport climber
general delivery
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Apr 21, 2009 - 01:13pm PT
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YAWN!
i realize the need for the airplane tech stuff, but minimize it in the book, unless you want to lose readers - we dont care if it was a lodestar or a whatever, the story suffers from details that only a pilot would find interesting - and i grew up flying private planes - my dad would eat those details up, but pilots are singleminded and focused more on a plane's flight characteristics than the overall story - my previous offer holds if you need a peer review from an english major let me know(trust me, we all need editing and advice on out writing projects) - there's more than just grammar to worry about, readability is key - and again, plane details are best left for another venue, a sidebar perhaps - find a lively pace for your narrative and keep it simple . . . and active
sidmo
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