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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Apr 11, 2016 - 10:58am PT
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What if we took out your heart?
What will you feel then, No God/Jesus?
What about people with electronic Hearts, are they not able to love?
Very confusing, heart, mind, foot.
What if we put your heart on one side of the planet, and your mind on the other side of the planet... oh just forget about it, I can see this isn't going anywhere.
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Pea-dub
Ice climber
sun diego
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Apr 11, 2016 - 12:07pm PT
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You open the door for me I wasn't going to go down this path. Actually that happened to me.
1960 I'm in a military base day care.My Dad worked on the missile sights in Roswell.
I'm 2 1/2 years old.
They tell my parents I have
epilepsy and want to help.
4 months of time there.
6-7 months of drugs. They ( helped) after I was no longer at the day care.
I would never be the same( not that you want to be a 2 1/2 years old ).
Drugs electric, shock,isolation chamber(floating in salt water
body temperature no sounds complete darkness. Add some drugs once in awhile for long periods of time.
Google MKultra or project paperclip do a little reading.
They sliced my personality heart- mind- spirit into many pieces.(Usable Pieces).
I have been wrestling with God
A lot over this.
Many troubles in this world
Ha light and darkness living in side me together.
I am slowly getting back memories.58 in July.
What I'm really noticing I never left that place.
I have always had a future scenario taking place in my mind of anticipating the future.Now I realise I was doing that when I was 2 1/2.
Anticipating what would happen that morning.
I can't control that it's another part of me separate
Goes on all the time in my head.
God bless Craig.
Jesus is my only hope
Real Christian
A changed Heart mind spirit.
conformed to the image of Christ.
Loving your neighbor as yourself.
loving God with all your heart strength and mind, spirit.
Many things happen in God's name.Not all are God's will.
His purposes are accomplish.
People have to respond many don't.Many people go to church on Sunday not many go home and respond, tearing there shirt and crying out for mercy.
Most are taught pray this prayer. You are good to go.
I don't believe that.
You can't earn it. But you do have to live it out.
The ice is forming on Cowles mt. 😊
I thought ice climber in San Diego would bring a laugh to someone.
the question was favorite climbing activity not what you were good at..
Appreciate your prayers my brothers and sisters.
Paul
No one knows me here.
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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 11, 2016 - 02:25pm PT
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Daaaang, this thread is still going!? I thought people would run out of questions before it got to 100.
Is there any connection between the Roman creation myth and the birth of Jesus?
Romulus and Reamus were conceived in a human woman by a god. (Mars) I've read about many claims that the Story of Jesus was a knock off from other religions. I don't claim to be an expert on the topic, but they seem to be similar only in passing. All of them that I've read about were old myths, with uncertain origins or dates, not claiming to be real people and often not even known in Israel at the time. Well, Alexander the Great was a real person with an alleged God as his father, but that wasn't written until after Jesus.
Seems like a complicated issue and not really about my faith, so I don't know. I have my opinions about politics, but in the end the government can tax whatever it wants and I don't believe it will change what Jesus taught. After all, give to Caeser what is Caesers (Mark 12:17).
Thanks LC. So an omnicient, omnipotent being created us for his own pleasure? And required us to worship him and his half human son to get into paradise? I believe He created us to enjoy a relationship with him and we are free to reject it and spend eternity away from Him (John 12:48, 3:18-19).
not only that, but then this Etherial Spirit orders us humans to murder, rape, and enslave each other in word of god, the Bible
why? don't know, perhaps for his amusement hanging out in space, bored and all If you have a question about a specific topic I'd love to talk about it, but I'm not sure where you're getting this from. As discussed earlier, I believe God used a group of people to carry out his judgement against a disgusting society (though this use did not involve everything you're mentioning), just as he used a flood before. Basically, I don't condone kidnap simply because I approve of police officers taking cereal killers and putting them in jail.
There was a blight on the Earth in British Columbia that took first nation children from their parents and institutionalized them into what were called Residential Schools.
The purpose of the Residential Schools was to inculcate Christian culture and conformity to people thought of as Savages. There were many instances of sexual, physical and mental abuse brought upon the children sent to what were boarding schools, away from their family and culture at the hands of Protestant, Catholic and Anglican clergy and laypersons.
I'm really sick of the, "It was flawed people, not belief in Jesus that caused all the trouble" fig leaf worn by modern apologists of faith concerning this holocaust in the name of God.
The Residential Schools were at heart, set up to, "Beat the Savage out of the Indian".
Would any of the recently enlightened from the past, New Age Christians who just love Jesus for his own sake, like to comment ?
As I've said before, I believe some people to terrible things and use Jesus as an excuse, though I do not think this is what Jesus taught (Luke 6:28). Though I'm not offended in any way, sometimes these comments remind me of someone asking a sugar cane farmer why they're so racist and love slavery, or asking an African American why "they" like to join gangs and shoot people, or asking an evolutionary biology why they promote eugenics. I encourage anyone who look at the thousands and thousands of Christians giving medical care, building homes, running food banks, or giving out donations, all for free, for every one person abducting children or killing people in the name of Jesus.
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Norton
Social climber
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Apr 11, 2016 - 02:41pm PT
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Limpingcrab, thank you for starting this Ask a Christian thread.
Would you or anyone else be offended if I started an Ask an Atheist thread?
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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 11, 2016 - 02:44pm PT
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Limpingcrab, thank you for starting this Ask a Christian thread.
Would you or anyone else be offended if I started an Ask an Atheist thread? Lol, I wouldn't, but I bet there are people who think this thread is already one more unnecessary OT threads.
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Apr 11, 2016 - 03:00pm PT
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Paul
No one knows me here.
think we know quite a bit now.
ThankYou and Bless You
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sempervirens
climber
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Apr 11, 2016 - 04:20pm PT
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As I've said before, I believe some people do terrible things and use Jesus as an excuse,
Perhaps that's why humans invented religion in the first place, so we can do terrible things with an all-purpose universal excuse. Maybe God made us, but we made religion.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Apr 11, 2016 - 06:49pm PT
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Funny....the Earth is 4.6 billion years, the dinosaurs ruled supreme for 160 million years without being under the dominium of man (y'all have read Genesis) Christianity is 2,000 years old....do the math.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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Apr 11, 2016 - 07:05pm PT
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C'mon Donini, you haven't been keeping up?
This is the 21st century now. Christianity is no longer about claims to truth or to history; it is no longer about how the world works or how life works. Now it is about... community, social togetherness... now it is about... closing the Good Book and just... "sitting in the wind" and "not being (so) concerned about interpretations" or being "right" about miracles. You didn't know?
Evolution? Who cares?
Science? Meh.
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"Imagine Christianity with NO doctrine and no beliefs, just a practice..."
Uh-huh.
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Apr 11, 2016 - 07:16pm PT
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Why?
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WBraun
climber
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Apr 11, 2016 - 07:23pm PT
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Christianity is as old as the beginning of the universe.
The gross materialists and the atheists are always completely and absolutely clueless .....
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Apr 11, 2016 - 07:28pm PT
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What if everyone loved God? Wouldn't that be boring for him/her? What would be the point?
Anthropomorphizing is fine as long as you don't take it too literally...like the Bible.
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WBraun
climber
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Apr 11, 2016 - 07:33pm PT
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The atheist always says there is no God.
Then immediately the atheist tells you how you should be, act, and do what he says all while imitating God.
The atheist then imediately tells you how God is while simultaneously saying there is no God
Such stupid hypocrites ....
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Apr 11, 2016 - 07:43pm PT
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No one wants to ask an atheist,
because every Christian/ mainstream Religion believer already knows that their every religious delusion will be questioned and all irrational faith will shot down with calm rational answers based on reality and logic.
Which unfortunately, ends up with them denying any conflicting ideas with every molecule of faith they need to cling to.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Apr 11, 2016 - 07:51pm PT
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"Imagine Christianity with NO doctrine and no beliefs, just a practice..."
Good call on this
How profound!
Very impressive.
Value?
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Apr 11, 2016 - 08:01pm PT
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I have no problem with the concept of God. I have a problem with people telling me they know what God wants from me. No one can know that but me. It does not matter how many Bible verses you quote. Saying Jesus is the only path to God is flat out wrong.
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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 11, 2016 - 08:34pm PT
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Another question I have for the Christians who define themselves as followers of Jesus only, is do you also attend a church that follows a mainstream religion version of Christianity ?
I attend a church that teaches about what the Bible says, I'm not sure how that categorizes it. I started going there after our house burned down and they did a fundraiser for my family.
Why? Because?
What if everyone loved God? Wouldn't that be boring for him/her? What would be the point?
Anthropomorphizing is fine as long as you don't take it too literally...like the Bible. I believe God would love that (1st commandment)
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Pea-dub
Ice climber
sun diego
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Apr 12, 2016 - 12:12am PT
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Thanks Blue,
Jim back in 2000 something, I watched a movie Rabbit proof fence I'm sure it was the same type of situation In Australia
as Canada.sucks big-time.
I apologize to any Christian Catholics here for my next statements,, men are pretty fallible I know I am, it's what I believe.
The Catholic church believes
that salvation comes only thru them. No one outside the church is saved. Only a priest can forgive your sins.
You use to be able to pay and get your relatives out of purgatory. Full service religion. Not....
Have you ever looked at all the torture devices thy used on people back a few hundred years.
Not Christian in my view.
I guess I have my own issues also.
When I was no longer in the daycare ( see past post )
They sent me with my parents to Albuquerque to a Catholic hospital for EEG final check.
Ha they shocked the crap out of me. Priest and nun there also they gave me wafer and wine before. I'm guessing they wanted to bury all the stuff they did to me.
I'm guessing a lot of people won't believe me. It's the truth. Many would rather believe a lie.
God's blessings to all.
Jim what's your definition of a Christian.
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Curt
climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
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Apr 12, 2016 - 12:21am PT
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The atheist always says there is no God.
And they may or may not be right.
Then immediately the atheist tells you how you should be, act, and do what he says all while imitating God.
The atheist then imediately tells you how God is while simultaneously saying there is no God.
No. How people should treat one another simply does not require God. There is no hypocrisy--God is superfluous.
Curt
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