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mcreel

climber
Barcelona
Dec 10, 2015 - 07:24am PT
Shoot, maybe I'm fuking up, like REAGAN, not REGAN. As is well known, Nancy always got top.
mcreel

climber
Barcelona
Dec 10, 2015 - 07:25am PT
So DMT, you are applying a law of large numbers, which, essentially, obviates the role of mutation. The consequences of a rare, but important change, can be important. In order for that to occur, that individual has to reproduce. Off to walk doggies now, with no apparent impact on my evolutionary fitness.
Reeotch

climber
4 Corners Area
Dec 10, 2015 - 07:28am PT
But what about my kids?
Winning in evolutionary terms means successfully passing your genes on to the next generation.But evolution works on the population level, not the individual level. At the population level luck has nothing to do with it, as you said.

Thread drift . . .
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 10, 2015 - 07:33am PT
One could argue that luck plays a part. There is order in randomness, however.
Reeotch

climber
4 Corners Area
Dec 10, 2015 - 07:38am PT
But, what does the Donald say about evolution (bracing myself . . .)
mcreel

climber
Barcelona
Dec 10, 2015 - 08:15am PT
Dogs are happy. I would say that there are cases where an individual may affect a population's reproductive behavior, even if that individual has no contribution to the gene pool. Jesus would be an example. This is one of those little wrinkles that the theory of evolution doesn't (?) address.

The (?) is because it's not strictly necessary to get lucky to pass on your genes.

DMT: let's try to rope up sometime! I come to the US every summer.
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 10, 2015 - 08:17am PT
Dogs are happy. I would say that there are cases where an individual may affect a population's reproductive behavior, even if that individual has no contribution to the gene pool.


Dogs appear happy to humans which increases human affinity for dogs and makes us want to care for them.

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/thoughtful-animal/dogs-but-not-wolves-use-humans-as-tools/

mcreel

climber
Barcelona
Dec 10, 2015 - 08:20am PT
Sugar rush tells us that Captain Crunch makes us feel good, so we eat more. What's your point?
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Dec 10, 2015 - 08:21am PT
Liberals, please watch. It's only 10 minutes.

[Click to View YouTube Video]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tOu6hl6vQE

re blasphemy law

“It should apply to all religions. If we have laws, they should apply to everybody. Religions are very special to people. And therefore I have no objection to them… but it must apply equally to everybody.”

-Keith Vaz
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 10, 2015 - 08:23am PT

It's a political cartoon made out of real tweets! This literally summarizes conservative viewpoints on this issue. A lot of tweets were deleted in the whitewashing of this message.


mcreel posted
Sugar rush tells us that Captain Crunch makes us feel good, so we eat more. What's your point?

That you are nothing more than a domesticated tool for your dog. Free will is a lie. Your life is a lie.
mcreel

climber
Barcelona
Dec 10, 2015 - 08:23am PT
Cheers, y'all. Over and out.
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 10, 2015 - 08:31am PT
The conclusions of the Armed Services Committee report on Bergdahl's prisoner swap:


And the dissent:

This report is an unbalanced, partisan, and needless attempt to justify a predetermined position regarding the transfer of five Guantanamo detainees in exchange for the release of Sergeant Bowe Bergdahl from enemy captivity.

Much of our disappointment with the report derives from the highly exclusive manner in which it was generated. The minority was excluded from the majority’s closed process for: analyzing and distilling the collected information, crafting findings and conclusions, and drafting the report. In fact, despite months of prodding by the minority, the majority failed to provide a draft of the report to the minority until 5:15 pm on Monday, November 23, 2015. (The underlying investigation was initiated by Chairman McKeon nearly a year-and-a-half prior, on July 17, 2014.) We were then provided two weeks, which included the Thanksgiving holiday period, to review the majority’s draft report and to make comment. All the while, the majority was making substantial edits to that draft. The majority did not provide a final draft of the report to the minority until 10:27 am on Wednesday, December 9, 2015.

We are disappointed that the majority needlessly allocated tremendous amounts of time and taxpayer resources to generate a report that essentially found what the supporters of H. Res. 644 already passed in 2014 with little evidence to support it.

We consider this report to be an expression of shrill demagoguery, contrary to the interests of national security, and beneath the dignity of the House Armed Services Committee.

For all of the preceding reasons, we dissent.
mcreel

climber
Barcelona
Dec 10, 2015 - 08:40am PT
That you are nothing more than a domesticated tool for your dog.
Tell me something I don't know!
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 10, 2015 - 08:47am PT
Stormfront, the leading white supremacy website in America, credits Donald Trump with increased traffic to their website and a greater ease at spreading their message. "He has sparked an insurgency," per the founder. David Duke also credits Trump with his highest number of speaking engagements in 20 years.

The Ku Klux Klan is using Donald Trump as a talking point in its outreach efforts. Stormfront, the most prominent American white supremacist website, is upgrading its servers in part to cope with a Trump traffic spike. And former Louisiana Rep. David Duke reports that the businessman has given more Americans cover to speak out loud about white nationalism than at any time since his own political campaigns in the 1990s.

As hate group monitors at the Southern Poverty Law Center and the Anti-Defamation League warn that Trump’s rhetoric is conducive to anti-Muslim violence, white nationalist leaders are capitalizing on his candidacy to invigorate and expand their movement.

“Demoralization has been the biggest enemy and Trump is changing all that,” said Stormfront founder Don Black, who reports additional listeners and call volume to his phone-in radio show, in addition to the site’s traffic bump. Black predicts that the white nationalist forces set in motion by Trump will be a legacy that outlives the businessman’s political career. “He’s certainly creating a movement that will continue independently of him even if he does fold at some point.”

Trump does not belong to or endorse white supremacist groups. He has said that he does not need or want Duke’s endorsement and his campaign has fired two staffers over racist posts on social media. A man displaying a Confederate flag was ejected from a Trump rally in Virginia earlier this month.

So much interesting news today!
Lorenzo

Trad climber
Portland Oregon
Dec 10, 2015 - 09:46am PT
teach a whole class based on evolution. It is not enough to survive, you have to pass your genes on. Otherwise you have been "selected against" and your genes are history . . .

you must not be teaching the gene centered theory of evolution.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene-centered_view_of_evolution

First off, nobody survives. You can help ensure your genes continue if you perish before you procreate.

You never pass on all your genes unless there have been advances in cloning nobody is talking about, and it's quite possible that other forms of kinship ensure the continuation of a gene pool or pass on more of your genes. Sacrifice and support for a sibling is a good example. There are uncle/aunt analogs that work. In environments where there are high mortality rates, more of the non breeder's genes might continue if there is sacrifice by relatives of the breeder.

Diversity might matter. In some long term scenarios, more of "your genes" might continue if you support another race or species, or at least not impede their survival.
JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Dec 10, 2015 - 10:54am PT
By giving so much airtime to the Republican leadership battle, the preoccupations of a tiny but vociferous portion of the American electorate is being showcased as though they represent the views of Americans as a whole.

Of course, only the worst Republican candidate - and the one whose nomination would do the most damage to the Republican party - gets airtime. Not conincidentally, anything that could derail Hillary Clinton's campaign, -- e.g. giving Bernie Sanders the same sort of exposure they give Trump, or giving one-third of a newscast (As NBC did a couple of nights ago re Trump) to a discussion of one of Hillary's lies given to congress -- somehow gets miniscule, if any, coverage.

Welcome to the world of the mainstream media. If people wonder why our partisanship keeps increasing, perhaps we should look no farther than the absence of any attempt at objective broadcast journalism. People recognize the lies of their opponents, but not those of their supporters, so they stop listening to "opposing" news sources, and merely listen to their own.

The worst part about this, however, is that broadcast media give us what we want. If there really existed a substantial market for objective broadcast news, and particularly if that market also had sufficient means to entice advertisers, someone would be making a killing serving it.

John
philo

climber
Dec 10, 2015 - 10:55am PT
JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Dec 10, 2015 - 10:56am PT
On a slightly different subthread, since so many here seem to be experts in evolutionary theory, could someone explain to me how sexual reproduction came into being? Whoever or whatever caused that has given me 3 decades of heartache, followed by 3+ decades of joy.

John
philo

climber
Dec 10, 2015 - 11:01am PT
StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Dec 10, 2015 - 11:07am PT
GOP is in a death spiral. Let's see if they can pull back on the stick in time.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/nightmare-scenario-for-establishment-trump-or-cruz/ar-AAgeWAY?li=BBnbcA1
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