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nature
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Boulder, CO
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Oct 13, 2015 - 07:21am PT
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good one Dr.
Must make more popcorn.
Fun watching the right self destruct.
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Oct 13, 2015 - 07:52am PT
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The Shut Down is coming
so what makes you think it will this time?
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Norton
Social climber
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Oct 13, 2015 - 08:00am PT
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Republicans need to stand up for their principles.
And one of the very most important principles is to deny lower income women
healthcare.
Therefore Planned Parenthood must, repeat must, not get any federal dollars.
If we Republicans can't stand for our principles then what good are we?
If the Democrats do not agree to take out all money in the budget for PP then we have to show our base, our voters, that they elected us to be strong!
And if shutting down the Federal government is necessary to defund PP, then that is what we must do.
Let them lazy old people not get their social security checks, so what if we don't pay our military people after all they get free meals and are basically lazy, and so what if we default on our debt payments, what is important is our principles.
We shut it down twice before and we can do it again!
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dirtbag
climber
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Oct 13, 2015 - 08:07am PT
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will they reduce our National Credit Rating again after this self inflicted Economic Crisis?
A shutdown would be disruptive.
This would be an unmitigated disaster.
Let's hope the next Speaker knows when to pull the chicken from the highway. But with this batch of republicans, you never know.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Oct 13, 2015 - 08:10am PT
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Give veterans congressman benefits.
Give congressmen veterans benefits.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Oct 13, 2015 - 08:32am PT
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A lower credit rating is actually good news for the Banksters that hold our debt through higher interest rates
They always win with Republicans at the helm.
And about the Shutdown-
No matter what, it will not be the President's decision to make
It will be the Democratic Senators that will not compromise with the hostage taking of our economy. They will filibuster the crazy Republican demands.
The Democratic Senators will ask for a clean bill to raise the debt Ceiling, since that is all that is needed to move on.
Raise the Debt ceiling or Shut the Government down, that's the choice.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Oct 13, 2015 - 08:37am PT
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I hear so many Independents and Libertarians claim that the Republican Party doesn't represent them.
BUT, none of them seem to get the fact if you Vote Republican, you are a Republican.
And, a Presidential vote Barely counts in the bigger picture, IT'S Congress that matters, they control almost everything, and can put a damper on everything else.
If you vote for Republican Congress members, then You are partly to Blame for the mess we are in.
If you think you're smarter than the average Republican, then Don't Vote For Republicans in any race.
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Oct 13, 2015 - 08:52am PT
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I hear so many Independents and Libertarians claim that the Republican Party doesn't represent them.
BUT, none of them seem to get the fact if you Vote Republican, you are a Republican.
Maybe you're just not paying attention.
I haven't voted Republican for President or either US Congress position, in over a decade.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Oct 13, 2015 - 08:57am PT
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Good for you Sketch
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dirtbag
climber
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Oct 13, 2015 - 09:46am PT
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Even David Brooks thinks these guys have lost it:
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/10/13/opinion/the-republicans-incompetence-caucus.html?_r=0
We see the nonsense he describes below here everyday:
All of this has been overturned in dangerous parts of the Republican Party. Over the past 30 years, or at least since Rush Limbaugh came on the scene, the Republican rhetorical tone has grown ever more bombastic, hyperbolic and imbalanced. Public figures are prisoners of their own prose styles, and Republicans from Newt Gingrich through Ben Carson have become addicted to a crisis mentality. Civilization was always on the brink of collapse. Every setback, like the passage of Obamacare, became the ruination of the republic. Comparisons to Nazi Germany became a staple.
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This anti-political political ethos produced elected leaders of jaw-dropping incompetence. Running a government is a craft, like carpentry. But the new Republican officials did not believe in government and so did not respect its traditions, its disciplines and its craftsmanship. They do not accept the hierarchical structures of authority inherent in political activity.
Nice to see that traditional republicans are waking up.
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dirtbag
climber
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Oct 13, 2015 - 01:45pm PT
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Yeah, he called out Rush specifically.
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Oct 13, 2015 - 01:50pm PT
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They always win with Republicans at the helm.
craig how do you explain the Ten years of "political whiplash" Washington has been going thru...?
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Oct 13, 2015 - 02:00pm PT
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It's been a Republican Controlled Congress since 2001
The Democrats had a 60 Vote Majority for ONLY 27 working days in 2009
They weren't able to undo all the Republican debacles in that short of a time.
27 working days between the day Al Frankin was sworn in to the day Ted Kennedy died.
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Oct 21, 2015 - 06:23am PT
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actually DMT it's a bit different than that from what I'm seeing. I can't believe I'm saying this but - Go Paul Ryan (I believe that's who you mean).
He's basically told the Freedom Caucus they can suck his shaven balls (not the entire GOP). As you may or may not know those 40 Teabagging f*#ktards in the Freedom Caucus had demands of their own. They'd only support a speaker that agrees to their terms. In typical fashion the teabaggers put their minority agenda over the interest of this country.
One of the things Mr. Ryan demanded is that he will not agree to any terms to take the position - flipped them the bird he did on that one.
So he sacked up in my view and stood up to them. Watch them cave. It'll be grand.
I'm investing in more un-popped popcorn kernels when the market opens.
Of course this whole shitshow is exactly why Boehner bailed. Can't really blame the guy.
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Rick A
climber
Boulder, Colorado
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Oct 21, 2015 - 07:20am PT
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Just like last time, the threat of shutdown by the deficit hawks in the House majority is already adding to government borrowing costs as treasury bill investors demand higher rates for the risk that T bills maturing around the date the government needs to raise the debt ceiling won't be repaid on time.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-10-19/treasury-bill-rate-hits-seven-month-high-as-debt-ceiling-looms
So the idea of debt reduction is so important that the House will increase the debt, if that's what it takes to reduce the debt.
Now that's a firm stand on principle!
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab or In What Time Zone Am I?
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Oct 21, 2015 - 07:25am PT
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I'm wondering. How do you know his balls are shaved?
I keep getting this "visual" of those little white septic squares plastered all over his balls.
Shaving ones own balls can't be easy.
Susan
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dirtbag
climber
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Oct 21, 2015 - 07:36am PT
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That's the look of a vampire after it has sucked on blood,
Strange that I find myself rooting for Ryan to take over.
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Oct 21, 2015 - 07:41am PT
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^^--- yeah, exactly. Strange indeed.
Someone has to take over. Having a guy in there that is bought and paid for by the Kock brothers is not the best idea. On the other hand having a extremist from the teabaggers is a horrible idea (not that that could happen as they are that fringe and that much of a minority)
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dirtbag
climber
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Oct 21, 2015 - 07:52am PT
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Yeah, I just want someone--anyone--who will pay the bills and keep the lights on. That's all.
Sad, huh?
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