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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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I had a somewhat *close encounter* with a drone on Saturday, while I was flying a kite at a State Park in Washington.
My kite was flying about 400' above the Keystone Ferry Landing, and I was getting shots of the Coupeville-to-Port Townsend ferries as they pulled into and out of the dock. About the time I figured I'd got what I came for, and was starting to pull everything back in, I noticed a drone buzzing around my kite.
Drones are prohibited there, but I wasn't concerned about that any more than I cared if someone was smoking or letting their dogs run loose. Not my job. It was "free admission day", so you're going to get those types on a day like that. Besides, that was only the second drone I've ever seen in my life, so I'm no judge of responsible drone operation. It looked to me like he had everything under control.
And I knew that if we tangled, the drone would certainly get the worst of it, most likely crash into The Puget Sound and never be seen again, while my gear would all survive to fly another day. The best the drone could hope for would be to get tangled up in my kite string, so I could fish it out of The Sound. A kite-aerial photographer in Philadelphia has been testing drone-on-kite smash-ups, and he's found there's no way to take down a kite with a drone. Especially a big kite like the ones we use to fly cameras. Can't even make a noticeable nick in the kite string with one. The worst is if the drone tears a hole in the kite fabric, but the hole's never big enough to do anything to really effect the kite's flying. The drone, however, gets knocked off its locus, and falls to the ground because at that point it is no longer an aircraft. So I wasn't worried.
What I did find odd was the drone's choice of subjects for his photos. He was apparently trying to get photos of my kite. Why the hell anyone would want pictures of an old, faded, chewed on by a goat delta kite ( albeit dependable and straight-flying ) is beyond me. Especially when Fort Casey State Park has so many other potential subjects to photograph, like the ten-inch guns, a lighthouse, ferries and other boats. And why anyone would risk a thousand-dollar drone - and drawing the ire of the authorities - to get shots of an old kite is a mystery.
I wanted to talk to him, maybe trade photos and just shoot the sh#t for a while, but by the time I got my stuff down and wrapped up, he was gone. Knowing how dangerous a flying kite can be to a drone, I didn't want to walk over to where he was until my stuff was down and out of his way. I wanted to suggest to him to fly about 200' lower, where my camera was, instead of up next to the kite, so I'd have a shot at getting pics of his drone. But no luck. I had to be content with photos of the marine traffic on the water.
I'll bet none of the drone's shots looked like this:
If this becomes a common thing, I'll look for a way to put a note on my kite reading "yer gonna need a bigger drone".
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Jul 25, 2016 - 06:28pm PT
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This isn't about drones, but it is about all the stuff flying around over my head.
Does anyone know if there is a publicaly available source enumerating all the planes flying around over me.
I know we have traffic from the military bases, the airport in Tijuana, local airports, etc.
But anyway to get a handle on how much and from where.
Reilly?
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Jul 26, 2016 - 08:03am PT
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Thanks Chaz. I have not seen any of these (yet).
Franz Kruckenberg, German aircraft engineer built the Schienenzeppelin in 1929
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Jul 26, 2016 - 06:12pm PT
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Isn't the red bar supposed to be on top of what is being "X'd" out of society?
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Jul 26, 2016 - 07:17pm PT
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http://kdvr.com/2016/07/21/finding-geno-dozens-plan-to-join-search-for-dog-missing-since-cold-springs-fire/
I've helped organize a number of teams to go search for Geno tomorrow stupid early. We'll all be flying banned drones equipped with FLIR cameras.
They've been searching for two weeks. Such a sad story. The firefighter that owns him was trying to save his neighbors houses while his burned to the ground. Geno apparently bailed.
Hopefully with can find him on thermal from the air holed up near water.
#bringgenohome
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Jul 27, 2016 - 07:30pm PT
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We tried hard today and we're not giving up.
The guy in this video says he can go four to six weeks.
http://kdvr.com/2016/07/27/drones-join-search-for-geno-the-dog-missing-since-nederland-wildfire/
(still need to check with Aya on that number but regardless we'll be back).
And I fuking hate the fact the news clips was because of someone's lost loved one. FUK!
as an aside I hit up Tarbuster to brainstorm and talk about the terrain. He knows it beter than anyone. Good visit.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Jul 30, 2016 - 09:30am PT
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The flight radar site Chaz pointed to, is pretty cool.
https://www.flightradar24.com/32.74,-117.23
I just checked and there are no planes over San Onofre.
Of course you have to have the right equipment. Hope no terrorists are watching the site.
Aircraft visible on Flightradar24 (within ADS-B coverage)
When ADS-B was initially launched, it was primarily used in commercial passenger aircraft with 100+ passengers. An increasing number of aircraft including smaller aircraft types, are getting ADS-B transponders but, until ADS-B becomes mandatory it's up to the aircraft producer and owner to decide if an ADS-B transponder should be installed or not.
Common aircraft models that usually have an ADS-B transponder and are visible on Flightradar24 (within ADS-B coverage):
All Airbus models (A300, A310, A318, A319, A320, A321, A330, A340, A350, A380)
Antonov An-148 and An-158
ATR 72-600 (most new deliveries)
BAe ATP
BAe Avro RJ70, RJ85, RJ100
Boeing 737, 747, 757, 767, 777, 787
Bombardier CRJ-900 (most new deliveries)
Bombardier CS100 and CS300
Embraer E190 (most new deliveries)
Fokker 70 and 100
McDonnell Douglas DC-10 and MD-11
Sukhoi SuperJet 100
Some newer Ilyushin and Tupolev (for example Il-96 and TU-204)
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kunlun_shan
Mountain climber
SF, CA
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Oct 24, 2016 - 03:50pm PT
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-10-24/sweden-bans-drone-cameras/7959108
Sweden places ban on drone filming without surveillance permit
....The country's Supreme Administrative Court has effectively banned personal drone filming, unless deemed to be for the purpose of "surveillance".
This means unless drone flyers are wishing to document crime or prevent accidents they will most likely be knocked back for the required permit.
However the court held that dashcams, on bicycle or motorbike handlebars, do not require a permit as they are operated by the rider "on the spot".
This is opposed to a drone which is not "controlled locally".
The new ruling does not provide any exemptions for commercial use or journalism.
Unsurprisingly the drone industry is outraged by the decision, with the leading drone body in Sweden, Unmanned Aerial System (UAS), planning to take a stand against the ruling.....
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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Oct 24, 2016 - 04:20pm PT
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I mean a peeping Tom is pretty harmless, amirite? Lookie but no touchie kinda thing, y'know.....
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jeff constine
Trad climber
Ao Namao
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Oct 24, 2016 - 07:05pm PT
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Follow me Drone deal.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Dec 12, 2016 - 12:01pm PT
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Dec 13, 2016 - 09:36pm PT
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Indians have been using drones in their fight against DAPL very successfully. No ban.
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