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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Mar 16, 2017 - 05:46pm PT
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And they very well may have. First we need evidence that such did actually occur and then we need to know whether they acted unilaterally or in collaboration with the President.
Seriously, Lois? You need to know if the Russians placed hidden wiretaps on Trumps' phones, in collaboration with the President? Wouldn't he know that?
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Mar 16, 2017 - 05:49pm PT
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Tillerson says diplomacy with North Korea has ‘failed’; Pyongyang warns of war
The secretary of state’s comments will fuel fears in the region that military options might be on the table to deter North Korea.
Fasten your seat belts!
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c wilmot
climber
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Mar 16, 2017 - 05:51pm PT
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We have had a failed diplomacy with North Korea since the armistice
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Mar 16, 2017 - 06:13pm PT
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Morgan S... Trump will never be investigated.. The Dems are a bunch of slacked-jawed faggots and can't get out of their own way when it comes to playing hardball... No offense to gays intended...Hillary will be investigated several more times to distract the conservative chimps while Trump dismantles America...get use to it..
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WyoRockMan
climber
Grizzlyville, WY
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Mar 16, 2017 - 06:19pm PT
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He's the Orange Man he's got little hands
With a porn star by his side
He spun the wheel called the USA
And took us for a ride
His promises are all empty
When he moves his lips he lies
He's the Orange Man he's got little hands
With a porn star by his side
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Norton
Social climber
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Mar 16, 2017 - 07:06pm PT
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John M
climber
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Mar 16, 2017 - 07:07pm PT
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Norton.. we have seen that a hundred times. Do you really think that its going to change the mind of those who voted for Trump? If not, then what do you hope to accomplish?
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Norton
Social climber
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Mar 16, 2017 - 07:09pm PT
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Norton
Social climber
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Mar 16, 2017 - 07:12pm PT
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John M, there are now new females posting on this thread who need to be reminded who they voted for. I intend to continue.
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John M
climber
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Mar 16, 2017 - 07:14pm PT
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oh good grief.. well, this thread will be deleted then. No wonder Werner calls you a politard. I agree with him.
VVVVV... Doesn't need reminding. Does no good. Just gets threads deleted. More politard bullsh#t.
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Mar 16, 2017 - 07:30pm PT
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Good job, Norton. He said it, he's the POTUS, needs reminding just who this clown is.
He'd love to distract everyone, can't let that happen.
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Studly
Trad climber
WA
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Mar 16, 2017 - 07:37pm PT
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I'm in China on business and everybody I talk to is like "Trump, WTF?" Laughing stock of the world and he's just getting started. We are so fawked, not that crooked Hillary would have been any better.
It's like we were given two choices, the guillotine or the electric chair...
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Mar 16, 2017 - 07:46pm PT
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If Hillary were President you'd be getting hugged. Big difference.
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Contractor
Boulder climber
CA
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Mar 16, 2017 - 08:34pm PT
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Finally a President with the courage to take on the waste, fraud and abuse of Meals on Wheels.
When my father (Vietnam vet) was dying of cancer and those grey haired charlatans showed up smiling, offering affordable food...I smelled a rat!
Good on you sir!
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Contractor
Boulder climber
CA
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Mar 16, 2017 - 08:59pm PT
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drF
Trad climber
usa
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Mar 16, 2017 - 09:48pm PT
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The STaco clowns are frothing again...haha
Angry about everything that means nothing
A very selective group of losers. Embarrassing lil'old men
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Mar 16, 2017 - 10:07pm PT
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About this thread!
My reply is sigh.
It's nice to see the new Lois,
banned in the blink of an eye.
And John M, I can hardly wait,
for your thoughts to be real,
& won't it be great?
oh good grief.. well, this thread will be deleted then. No wonder Werner calls you a politard. I agree with him.
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monolith
climber
state of being
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Mar 16, 2017 - 10:20pm PT
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First step:
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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Mar 16, 2017 - 10:22pm PT
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I wonder if any Trump supporters here have friends or relatives who have died of cancer. My cousin's wife just last week got the diagnosis of an advanced cancer with a 4% survival rate after 5 years. She is a few years younger than me, has 2 kids in elementary school. Imagine going through chemo and everything possible for that chance of survival, fighting for a few years and keeping a stiff upper lip, all the while preparing what you want to leave your children with. What do you write in the letters for them to open when they turn 16, 18, meet the person they think they want to marry, etc.... As terrible as it is, it's far from a unique story. Most of us have a connection to family that is going through or went through something like this.
My wife is a cancer researcher, and there is really only 1 person I have ever known who works harder than she does (and that was a self-made guy that had hundreds of millions of dollars, and I knew him later when he was CEO of a company with 200 people). Lots of people talk the talk about how many hours they put in, but I have seen year after year how she is a machine. A "day off" for her is a Saturday where she works only 6-8 hours after she cleans up at home and does 4-5 loads of laundry. A typical week day starts at 7am with emails, grant writing, peer reviewing papers for publication, etc... then we spend about 20-30 minutes together talking over breakfast, and then she's at the lab until about 10pm or so (meeting with her students/postdocs or analyzing data or writing grants or reading papers to develop new hypotheses and develop experiments). All in, we're talking about 90 hrs/week as a steady state minimum. When she has big grant deadlines, she goes for weeks on end with 2-4 hours of sleep per night, and at the very end, I'm up with her all night doing final reviews and clean-up before submission.
She is a shining example of what makes America Great.
She is from Italy, recently got her green card. She's not going to get rich like a pharmaceutical start-up at the end of this. She is doing it because she loves science, loves forging into uncharted territory to unravel the stunning complexity and wonder of how our DNA repairs itself when it is damaged. We have little factories more complex than any human endeavor operating in every one of our cells, and she is reverse-engineering how part of that works as a step in the process of beating cancer. The only reward she really wants is the satisfaction of being able to keep doing what she is doing, which also happens to be a majorly good thing for humanity.
Trump's 20% budget cuts to NIH have a high probability of derailing her career (she is utterly dependent on NIH R-1 grants for funding her basic research, as are almost all basic medical researchers in America- the people who find the stuff that pharmaceutical companies can cherry-pick after 5-20 years of development in academic environments). She has done everything right for nearly 2 decades working her ass off and persevering over many obstacles.
For the last 3 years I have lived far from my school-age children in support of my wife's career, and I travel 2-3 times per month between Los Angeles and San Francisco area for the time they are in my custody. I wake up and get confused where I am, have sudden panic attacks in mornings thinking I am late to get the kids off to school and then realize I am actually far away from them, or I roll over in bed expecting to talk to my wife and realize I am with the kids. It's difficult, but lots of people have gone through way more difficult things, and one of the things that sustains us is we know we are working hard for a better future for ourselves, and woven somewhere in there is the trust that America is a place that rewards hard work.
Frustrating is hardly a sufficient word to express the feelings these things engender.
I have to stay close to my kids until at least they finish high school. My wife would have a much more easy and much more successful career in Switzerland (plus the climbing is frankly more spectacular, and she would actually have time to climb again if we lived there).
If we review what people thought made America great after World War II, I suspect we would find that by every measure Trump is crushing those things.
Does anyone here have a good story about Trump or his policies that can help me see a bigger picture about how our country will be tangibly better, how his priorities and decisions will make lives better for more people so I can take some consolation in how my life is being impacted? And hopefully these benefits will be enough to justify our collective loss of medical treatment advances in the coming years, and our nation's losses in a multi-national world of medical business?
This is just a slice into the biology and medicine field... I imagine there are countless stories like this across all scientific disciplines that advance our lives in ways we are too ignorant to understand or appreciate. And that is just looking at the pragmatic scientific stuff without considering the arts and humanities that add wonder to our lives, and all so we can afford billions and billions more to go into black-bag budgets for military expenditures of highly questionable value when we already outspend the rest of the world combined.
And why are we losing these things and so far out of whack in our priorities? Fear. Ignorance. Because about half of our country prefers Twitter-sized misinformation. Or maybe it's folks like Jody that just like to stir sh!t up and be contrarian because it's easier to argue and raise people's hackles than to be alone. Surely we can all challenge ourselves to find what is good in humanity to rally behind and invest in, rather than being manipulated into reactionary fear to what the worst of us might do and signing a blank check to unravel our civilization.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Mar 16, 2017 - 10:27pm PT
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Does anyone here have a good story about Trump or his policies that can help me see a bigger picture about how our country will be tangibly better, how his priorities and decisions will make lives better for more people so I can take some consolation in how my life is being impacted?
Yes, the country voted to get rid of the party whose number two member had set as his goal a "cancer moon shot" to accelerate the research for cancer cure. And it place, we have a VP whose primary goal is removing people's insurance for the treatment of cancer.....
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