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chris v
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Oct 26, 2012 - 01:32am PT
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posted this on the wrong page earlier. here it is again:
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Oct 28, 2012 - 10:52am PT
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Peluts real taco name is Un Des Tants... I still can't get over this classic...
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Oct 28, 2012 - 11:34am PT
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you would think so....
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Da_Dweeb
climber
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Similarly bumped, to annoy the OT political posters.
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Rivet hanger
Trad climber
Barcelona
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Trying to surpass Da-Dweeb meritorius personal contributions to this thread, I just want to point out that in Desnivel nš316 (paper edition november 2012) you'll find a complete report of new Pelut's route in King Fisher and the SA of Weird Science.
If you can get it in the States, Richy, you'll find a complete photo gallery in addition to all those on internet of the route for your possible SA new attempts (in which you'll need Peckers instead of rivets, bolts, and shinning anchor chains under the desert sun).
And for Jeremy and Paul, I hope you'll post a TR if you decide to do a SA.
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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Heeeyyyy, RH,
I'm glad you FINALLY agree that on Weak Sauce I needed rivets! Finally we're on the same page about THAT drilled-up PILE of an FA!
So, you're saying that Pelut's FA on Kingfisher is different?
I'd be shocked if that were true.
Peckers, huh? You mean like every 18-inches, with bashing the HELL out of the surrounding rock in order to BURY them (every 18-inches) until they were no longer even visible? Is THAT what you mean by "needing peckers?"
Honestly, after seeing what Pelut calls "climbing," I wouldn't waste the gas money to even go SEE it, much less climb it.
Pelut has NOTHING to contribute to the climbing community except entertainment value... a sort of sick, fascinated-horror "entertainment."
And even THAT has worn pretty thin.
Nope, not interested in any more.
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Rivet hanger
Trad climber
Barcelona
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Hey Richy!
First of all, thank you for being synthetic, I know it's really hard for you!
Considering that you define yourself as a philosopher, teacher, author, consultant and climber (in this order? DaVinci wasn't the half!) I thought you were a little bit more clever and you knew yet the meaning of a word called sarcasm... So, don't get me wrong!
As I told you a lot of times, supertopo is read worldwide, so some objective facts and my personal opinions are there for everybody.
And yeah, Peckers! I appreciate a lot your resignation from a SA (Black Diamond has not contacted you to pay your spendings, yet? What's wrong with them? They must be impressed for your Maesttri Route in the Towers!), but considering your tendency to make holes deeper, I'm sure that with your fancy hammer you'd be able to by-pass all the route with just a bunch of angles (and some more bolts if the situation gets too much scary for an old fart as you). And about placing gear every 18 inches, you did the same on Intifada according to the pictures on your web page, so don't try to make others belive that you go to last step of the aiders in these situations. Perhaps time and living from old past glories don't let you remember that, although again, it is an objective fact that everybody can check out whenever.
And keep giving your opinion about Pelut, since my point of view you do nothing more than increase the sensation of prejudice against non-american aid climbers.
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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prejudice against non-american aid climbers.
See, this is where people just laugh you out of the room. There are many non-american aid climbers who were/are respected or revered in the US climbing scene. Bongard, Falco, Humar, etc.
It's not where you come from, it's what you leave behind. And what your buddy Pelut the galoot left behind was a steaming pile of runny feces.
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Rivet hanger
Trad climber
Barcelona
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So, if it's just a question of what you leave behind, Jensen left tons of steel and I do not see people just laughing out of the room... No prejudice?
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Ya because Richard puts bolts in his holes rather that ruining the rock with that bashie crap. When are you going to understand?? 1 hole = 1 bolt no matter what you shove in there.
Oh wait.... You're not. Carry on looking like an idiot.
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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Well, it wasn't QUITE a ton. At least, certainly not a METRIC ton. I'm sure of that.
And it was 1/3 of what Pelut did on the FA. LOL
Oh, wait, I'm considering HOLES when I say 1/3. But to YOU, "holes" are empty, so they don't WEIGH anything. But the bolts/rivets I left behind DO weigh something. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
I see your point now!
WOW, for the FIRST time I get what you are saying!!! I'm slow sometimes.
The issue in whether a climb was decent or not is the total WEIGHT of what was left behind in the rock. How DENSE can I be? I should have SEEN what you were trying to say all along! SO sorry!!!
I take back EVERYTHING I said about Pelut before. Actually, Weak Sauce was BRILLIANT! It WEIGHED almost nothing!!!
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Rivet hanger
Trad climber
Barcelona
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Richard does not puts bolts if he must drill the rock!
Have a look to Ammon report of SA of WOS and you'll find out that he made more than 145 bathooks (as himself claimed in the original topo, all must be said). I do not speak native American English but I guess a bathook is little hole to place the hook! Look the pictures on Ammon and Kait blog!
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raymond phule
climber
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And by the way, where do you see heads in Kingfisher Pelut's photos?
He might have learned to not include his "bad placements" in his photos?
Why don't you try a SA and then talk?
So you could listen to what he says in the same constructive way as you listen to Richard now?
What other people say and what their pics show don't seem to matter that much to you.
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Rivet hanger
Trad climber
Barcelona
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Because everybody can see that Pelut placed a lead head and Richy even placed an angle...
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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THE thing you don't seem to GET, RH, is that trying to trash ME doesn't save PELUT! LOL
Even IF what you say about me were true, which it isn't, all that would mean is that I'm a goofball. But that wouldn't change ANYTHING about the FACTS of what Pelut does when he "climbs." (I put quotes around that, because I don't even admit that Pelut CLIMBS.)
So, keep talking, but the facts about PELUT don't change.
:-)
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raymond phule
climber
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Have a look to Ammon report of SA of WOS and you'll find out that he made more than 145 bathooks
I really doubt that you can backup that claim.
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