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paul roehl
Boulder climber
california
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The seeming increase of blue in painting may have something to do with blue's fugitive quality particularly in Fresco where lapis as a pigment didn't penetrate wet plaster very well and so was painted a secco which isn't a very archival technique. Also in the 19th century in its competition with photography, the celebration of color in painting (something photography did poorly) through increased saturation becomes ubiquitous. It's also interesting to note that orange and blue are, of course, complementary colors.Don't think anybody used more blue than Giotto, 1300s.
Quantifying is good but doesn't help when you've got the "blues."
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jgill
Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
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Good post, Paul. It is refreshing to have an expert in a subject relay information that the rest of the posters can understand. I try this occasionally in mathematics, but am not very successful. Ed is good at explaining physics, and Andy is good at neuroscience. Among the meditators, PSP is good, as are Mike and Largo when they avoid the spiritual or metaphysical. Jan is terrific when speaking about anthropological issues. And the list goes on. (jstan speaking physics is wonderful, also!)
There are others who claim expertise in wide arrays of topics and for the most part I accept much of what they have to say. They frequently post links that are illuminating.
And then there is Mr. Duck . . .
;>)
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Ward Trotter
Trad climber
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Good post, Paul. It is refreshing to have an expert in a subject relay information
Pay no attention to this because at any moment you could be summarily demoted to the "B" or "warm-up" squad.
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Tvash
climber
Seattle
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jonathan haidt has something to say on inherited bias towards ideas. no strawmen required, just data.
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Tvash
climber
Seattle
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speaking of blue, we awakened to a fresh blizzard in city of rocks this morning, and there, flitting about in our newly monochromatic world, was a single, brilliant bluebird - a species id never seen before. wonderful!
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jgill
Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
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The bank of mom will soon close its doors upon the bonny lass (sullly)
An advisory comment: From personal experience it will reopen as the Bank of Grandma.
Edit: As frequently happens, sullly's post disappeared in the time it took me to post this.
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jgill
Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
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In my case it has been the Bank of Grandpa up to the age of 78, but repayments have been pretty good!.
Fair warning!
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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haha, Edh succumbing to pop youtube science!
Looks like a good one (a 45 to 1 thumbs-up), so tfpu. I've booked yet, eager to check it out later.
Careful though, this pop science could become an addiction!!
PS
Don't forget the Sam Harris vids. (Re: both free will and death, the present moment and meditation.) He's still out there, too, remember. Make that time!
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MH2
Boulder climber
Andy Cairns
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jstan speaking anything is wonderful.
Almost anything.
I welcome the participation of sullly and it's nice to see her getting into the swing of things, here.
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jgill
Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
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The "artist" is an integral for each point in the complex plane, easily computed but with an unobtainable integrand that depends on the system dz/dt=f(w) and dw/dt=G(z), non-holomorphic.
Another caption: Monkey Mind
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MikeL
Social climber
Seattle, WA
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Ed, great post. Thoughtful.
Ed: . . . we might actually inherit ideas. So our predisposition to a particular way of thought might have features that are inherited.
Yes, yes, yes. Would you include what is not material? Would you admit to culture, institution, socialization?
If so, to what extent would you see it as “wired?”
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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MikeL, information is material
sullly, I could barely watch the first three minutes of the video, but I thought it got better once the topic was engaged...
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Bushman
Social climber
Elk Grove, California
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Horrible bout of catch up at work so just got a chance to get up to speed here.
Bravo on this one, Ed?
The utility, in evolutionary terms, would be to have a diversity of attributes and behaviors that may lead to successful survival adaptations, largely to continue the 3.4 billion year chemical process known as "life on Earth" of which we, humans, are a recent result.
The way I'm "wired," the fact that we humans are not exceptional is a much more beautiful and noble idea than any of the alternatives.
I couldn't have stated the points on that post any better. My sentiments exactly at the end.
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WBraun
climber
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On the absolute platform there is nothing material and everything is actually spiritual.
The so called empirical material world of duality and beginning and end is nothing but the inferior energies of God.
Thus everything is ultimately spiritual including us.
But due to our contamination to the inferior material energies and the illusion we are our material body we believe that everything is ultimately only material.
That is why you DMT have become the real incarnation of strawman and scientism .....
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MikeL
Social climber
Seattle, WA
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Information is material? (That would include thoughts, no doubt.)
You give a new meaning to empirical.
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WBraun
climber
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Thoughts are definitely material.
Definitely only yours due to your phenomenological ego as usual exhibiting it's day to day stream of consciousness only thinking I am what I am.
But there is the transcendental ego which is not material and the true "I", .... the actual observer behind that stream of consciousness .....
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paul roehl
Boulder climber
california
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Isn't there a difference between a machine and an organism?
We don't find watches in nature and those things made by humans that operate as machines are ultimately initially the products of mind and so the conclusion that mind initiates creation is a kind of natural extrapolation whether a reality or not.
The model of the brain as simply a machine may be just that: too simple.
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Bushman
Social climber
Elk Grove, California
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