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ontheedgeandscaredtodeath
Social climber
SLO, Ca
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Mar 23, 2015 - 03:48pm PT
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I don't care about biker v. non-biker. Walking around with a side arm at baseball fields and grocery stores or wherever is just lame.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Mar 23, 2015 - 04:03pm PT
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I say we give every legal Black man a Gun, just to see what happens.
I know exactly what would happen, the Gun Nuts would go CrazY!!
Most state gun control laws got their start when Democrat racists wanted to disarm free blacks during the reconstruction era.
Democrat big city mayors are continuing the tradition of denying minorities the means to defend themselves.
Different plantation,
Same party.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Mar 23, 2015 - 05:05pm PT
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The whole point of open carry is to do so during mundane everyday life.
Just thought I would mention that we are at the 70th anniversary of our securing Iwo Jima where there were 27 medal of honor awardees, and also the 10th anniversary of the battle of Salmon Pak where Leigh Ann Hestor became the first woman to be awarded the Silver Star for heroism in combat.
Some people from the gun culture who protected Americans.
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ontheedgeandscaredtodeath
Social climber
SLO, Ca
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Mar 23, 2015 - 05:12pm PT
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I have no problem with guns and have asked for buying advice on this thread. But walking around making kids squirm is just lame. It is like some climbers saying they have the right to bolt anywhere. Just cause you can does not mean you should.
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crankster
Trad climber
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Mar 23, 2015 - 05:43pm PT
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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Mar 23, 2015 - 06:24pm PT
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Walking around with a side arm at baseball fields and grocery stores or wherever is just lame.
Oh yeah, because bad things that require some good guy with a gun to stop them never happen at places like those....
And regarding the "kids squirming" at such places, that is an indictment of the "education" of the left rather than an indictment of the "lameless" of gun owners. In a healthy society, kids would not "squirm" at the mere sight of a gun. This "squirming" (if it is even real, which I doubt) is a result of the "guns = evil" mantra relentlessly foisted off by the left, who, ironically, surround themselves (and their poor, squirming kids) with armed guards.
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ontheedgeandscaredtodeath
Social climber
SLO, Ca
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Mar 23, 2015 - 06:45pm PT
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I can say with 100% certainty a "good guy with a gun" will never save my kids, just like pretty much everyone besides delusional morons. So carry away, heroes in your own minds.
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Mar 23, 2015 - 06:57pm PT
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Interesting... you can predict the future! Must be nice. Good guys(and girls) with guns prevent bloodshed every day, oftentimes without firing a shot.
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Mar 23, 2015 - 07:11pm PT
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If you're into statistics look at swimming pools.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Mar 23, 2015 - 07:15pm PT
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Or five gallon buckets!
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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Mar 23, 2015 - 07:16pm PT
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If you can't tell the difference between letting children have a childhood and keeping self satisfied adult as#@&%es away from them, you probably have a constitutional freedom argument against restraining laws.
Sorry, Jim, but the frothiness is not on my side. When you use a phrase like "letting children have a childhood," as though the mere appearance of a gun in public (oh, the humanity!) is enough to deny them that (or at least somehow threaten it), you are the one showing how far off center your thinking is.
The appearance of a gun on a person in public SHOULD cause no worry. Its mere existence and visibility is no threat. The worry should be about the massive number of guns hidden on the people that are up to no good. Those you only see when the guns are revealed to accomplish the no good.
Edit: Actually, I'd be interested to see if there is any data suggesting that criminals OPEN carry their firearms into the bank, the store, the school, etc. before they engage in no good. Every video or news article I've seen demonstrates that criminals invariably HIDE the gun up until the moment that they flourish it with ill intent.
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ontheedgeandscaredtodeath
Social climber
SLO, Ca
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Mar 23, 2015 - 07:25pm PT
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No, because most of us live in reality. When I see a guy openly wearing a gun in a safe environment (100% of the time in my experience so far in 45 years) I automatically think nutcase. When I have lived and hung out in places with lots of gun violence (all urban) there were no tough NRA guys around and most if not all of the violence kills the intended target or random bystanders who get killed no matter how many guns they are carrying.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Mar 23, 2015 - 07:32pm PT
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My reaction at 7, my siblings and my kids would have been;
Oh boy can we go shooting after the cake?
I must have been about 10 for my first competitive target shoot.
Came in third.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Mar 23, 2015 - 07:33pm PT
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"I say we give every legal Black man a Gun, just to see what happens."
Excellent idea. The entertainment value alone of watching white gun-nutz go more nutz would be worth the price of admission all by itself.
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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Mar 23, 2015 - 07:36pm PT
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wearing his AR 15 over his shoulder
Well, there's the disconnect in communication, Jim. I've been talking about holstered pistols, and I personally have no sympathy with the mindset of a guy that "needs" to pack a long gun around in public. By definition, a long gun is "carried" in an unholstered condition, and that does raise the eyebrows of normal people in this society, including me.
I get why the Texas activists were open-carrying long guns, and it appears that their protest is having the desired effect, with the Texas senate already having voted on a new slate of firearms laws that are more sane, such as allowing open-carry of holstered pistols. But, yes, I'm the first to agree that it is disconcerting to see a guy stroll into a public establishment with a "military style" weapon in the "ready" position on a sling.
HUGE difference between how "the gun" is portrayed as a pistol in a holster and a long gun open-slung like that.
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Mar 23, 2015 - 07:39pm PT
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If you see a properly holstered sidearm on some man or woman otherwise doing nothing alarming you automatically think "nutcase"?
lol... why? Could be an off duty cop, ranger, po, etc.
Stay away from Wyoming!
Growing up around firearms there was nothing alarming about them. They were tools and we were taught how to use them once we were old enough. There was no "mystery" about them I guess... Like the big knives in the kitchen or Dad's chainsaw or the Bleach under the sink we just didn't touch them because we knew what they could do, and we knew what Dad would do!
*** To add... the guys with the rifles slung on the front in McDonalds also would concern me. I'd leave too but I'd also respect their right (assuming they were behaving safely) to do something that makes me feel uncomfortable.
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Mar 23, 2015 - 07:39pm PT
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Jim... I had a .22 when I was 8.
I learned that guns are NOT toys and never to be a plaything.
Intro into responsibility.
But I will agree, non law enforcement with big guns showing is weird.
better to be lo key..... IMHO
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Mar 23, 2015 - 07:39pm PT
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I guess Perigee missed it.
say we give every legal Black man a Gun, just to see what happens.
I know exactly what would happen, the Gun Nuts would go CrazY!!
Most state gun control laws got their start when Democrat racists wanted to disarm free blacks during the reconstruction era.
Democrat big city mayors are continuing the tradition of denying minorities the means to defend themselves.
Different plantation,
Same party.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Mar 23, 2015 - 07:45pm PT
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My folks took us kids out shooting on a regular basis ( exactly what The Constitution had in mind where it says "well regulated" ) starting at about six or seven. We thought it was for fun, but it was probably a plan to satisfy our curiosity toward guns. Probably the same reason we were taught how to swim.
If shooting the guns didn't satisfy our curiosity, cleaning them afterwards certainly got guns out of our system.
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ontheedgeandscaredtodeath
Social climber
SLO, Ca
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Mar 23, 2015 - 07:45pm PT
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I grew up around guns and chainsaws and all that too. Paid my way through college and grad school teaching shooting at a place in Wyoming, fighting fires and doing tree work. So what? I'm supposed to accept that it's normal to walk around parks or churches with a loaded gun? My kids will be taught proper gun safety and respect, not stupid paranoid protection bullsh#t.
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