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healyje
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Portland, Oregon
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Apr 17, 2009 - 06:27pm PT
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I don't doubt that Tar, but this sounds like some pretty specific physical movements / manipuliation specific to T4 as opposed to the broad manipulations Chiros do (I've had about as many myself...).
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old ass hippie
Trad climber
nathrop colorado
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Apr 17, 2009 - 09:22pm PT
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Todd, this is scott an robyn erler, we use to live in Idyllwild, and will send a donation. SEE YA.....
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Todd Gordon
Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
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Apr 17, 2009 - 09:58pm PT
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Great;....Scott/Robyn.......thanks from Roy Boy....Hope all is well with you;.......now in Colorado..........
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nature
climber
Tucson, AZ
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Apr 17, 2009 - 10:04pm PT
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Todd... I'll be calling you soon (finally)
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F10
Trad climber
e350
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Apr 17, 2009 - 10:11pm PT
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Nature, just sent you an email
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Apr 17, 2009 - 10:13pm PT
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Scott 'n Robyn !!!!!!
Yahooooooo...
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nature
climber
Tucson, AZ
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Apr 17, 2009 - 10:21pm PT
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F10 - got it, back atcha.... Monday is a big day.
Until then... gotta prep for Babo.... wooot!
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F10
Trad climber
e350
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Apr 17, 2009 - 10:35pm PT
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Have a great time on Babo, awesome place, talk with ya on monday
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Todd Gordon
Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
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Apr 17, 2009 - 11:14pm PT
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Todd Gordon (760) 366-9395
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Apr 18, 2009 - 05:56am PT
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The A5 hammer originally listed among the items in the [url="http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=833225" target="new"]For Sale: Dano's Potaledge Cliff Cabana & lots o' wall gear [/url] thread has now been donated to this benefit auction.
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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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Apr 18, 2009 - 11:32am PT
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I know I saw it here somewhere but I've lost it in 510 posts ... what's the preferred address
to make direct contributions, for those of us who can't travel to the left coast this time? There
might be one or two others in that boat too.
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Apr 18, 2009 - 06:35pm PT
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bump for Roy!
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Apr 18, 2009 - 08:49pm PT
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The 50th anniversary of the FA of the Northwest Face of Half Dome was celebrated in Yosemite in the summer of 2007. I arranged to have twenty-three Chouinard Long Dong Nutscratchers signed by Royal Robbins, Mike Sherrick and Jerry Gallwas in connection with the event. As Roy is a TEN, I am contributing #10 of 23.
Edit: I will send this on to the event directly via Todd.
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Apr 18, 2009 - 11:29pm PT
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I am in lovely downtown Manteca, and tomorrow will be in the Valley. Joshua Tree by Thurday.
I may have a jar of therapeutic marmelade to donate.
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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Apr 19, 2009 - 12:22am PT
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Thurday?
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Apr 19, 2009 - 12:47am PT
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I'll be there Friday noon...
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Apr 19, 2009 - 12:54am PT
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I'll be there a day or two early, to get some exercise. Though I'll probably just get baked. Anyway, it's a long way to drive, so making the most of it. I can always keep Roy company, and help with whatever is needed.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Apr 19, 2009 - 02:51am PT
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Gotta spend Thursday in Laguna with the folks...
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Rick A
climber
Boulder, Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 19, 2009 - 12:58pm PT
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We have a great range of auction items and will start the silent auction about 5:00 p.m.
Due to the vast number of items, we will auction most of the stuff by a silent auction. Here is how it works. There will be a sheet of paper next to the item. All you have to do is write your name and a bid on the paper. The next person puts his/her name and a higher bid, etc. The silent auction will be closed when the auctioneers decide and make an announcement.
A select group of silent auction items will continue to be bid on in the live auction beginning, around 7:00 p.m.
Roy has been incommunicado because of 3 feet of snow in Ned, and his power and internet are out.
His address for sending cash or check donations is:
Roy McClenahan
PO box 463,
Nederland, Co
80466
It is too late to send auction items to Roy’s house, since Roy will be leaving for Josh soon. If anyone has a last minute auction item, just bring it to Todd’s.
Looking forward to seeing everyone at Todd’s house.
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Apr 19, 2009 - 03:44pm PT
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Dr Josh,
Thanks for the recommendation for the T4 syndrome.
I can certainly doublecheck on this item (and will); however I can say that I've seen three different chiropractors over the last 12 years and all specifically for resolution of bilateral arm pain.
One of them did report a particular pathway interruption/overload, precipitated by protracted fight or flight, which may well have been descriptive of T4 syndrome, although he did not call it that by name, and made claims to the effect that this would cause or precipitate muscle spasm in the medial belly of the forearms.
No other practitioner who I've seen has been significantly so moved to describe a pathway overload and symptomatic outcome so explicitly.
After over 20 sessions with him I had no resolution whatsoever. I'm not quite sure that glovelike distribution of pain, including nocturnal onset or at morning is necessarily descriptive of my symptoms and I don't complain of upper back pain or stiffness.
I've also had lots of PT, as far back as 1997, some distinct diagnostics were not focused on T4, but rather on C5/6. There was a rubber ball pressure point protocol, described by the Upledger Institute, which sounds similar, except for placement. The point being I think I had good eyeballs and expertise focused on my issue which would've queried and subsequently targeted T4 and directed the therapy accordingly.
Thanks for reading the whole thread and taking a crack at it!
I will certainly review and revisit this line of thinking.
Roy
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