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monolith
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Paul Ryan says those on suspected terrorist list should still be able to buy whatever gun they desire.
The Wisconsin Republican said part of the discussion surrounding mental health legislation is who should and shouldn't have access to guns, but he signaled that barring gun purchases by people on no-fly terror lists — as President Obama urged Wednesday — is not an option.
Ryan said government officials put people on such lists without any due legal process and so denying those listed the right to bear arms would violate their rights.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2015/12/03/ryan-urges-caution-on-gun-legislation/76714608/
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The Chief
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Down the hill & across the Valley from......
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And it again highlights the issue that refugees aren't the problem, it takes years to get that status versus a tourist or business visa or arranging a sham marriage.
More of the Liberal Logic. It's easier to be a "Bad Guy/Terrorist" being an American Citz than it is if one is a "Refugee".
Cool.
Goes along with this very recent Liberal Logic that our POTUS seriously believes and is disseminating...
[Click to View YouTube Video]
Add it all up and we get the following current "Liberal" logic:
1. "Stricter" Gun Control will impede Terrorism
2. ISIS/ISIL is merely a "JV Team" and nothing to "worry" about
3. "We have ISIL Contained"
4. Radical Jihadists are not in any way associated with Islam/Muslims thus do NOT call them such and to do so deems you a "Bigot/Racist" etc
5. Syrian Refugees will not consist of ANY potential "Bad Guys" that will perform horrific acts such as the one in SB
AND!!!
6. It's ALL Climate Changes fault because it truly is the greatest threat to our National Security.
Curious to see what bountiful logic will come about from our wonderfully wise POTUS today that I can add to the above list.
OH MAN!
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HighDesertDJ
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If we could get background checks half as thorough for gun purchases as we do for Syrian refugees we'd be in pretty good shape. Mind you that as a profile, people purchasing guns in the US are relatively likely to commit violent acts when you contrast them with people applying for asylum. It's not even close.
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The Chief
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Down the hill & across the Valley from......
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And we currently HAVE....
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philo
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 4, 2015 - 07:19am PT
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Stupid is as stupid spews.
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HighDesertDJ
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You put the onus to register the gun on the person selling it, not the person buying it. Then you fine the sh#t out of people with unregistered guns. Pretty simple.
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dirtbag
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Chief, how about taking a morning walk in the beautifully crisp eastside air instead of venting angrily here? This stuff doesn't bring out the best in you.
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HighDesertDJ
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Chief lives on the Eastside and spends this much time stockpiling bad political .gifs?
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Chaz
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greater Boss Angeles area
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"Then you fine the sh#t out of people with unregistered guns. Pretty simple."
What f*#king good would that do?
It's already a FELONY to possess the guns they used to shoot up San Bernardino. What's a fine going to do? Especially when the police won't enforce the law?
You think the police are going to be more interested in writing tickets than making felony arrests?
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Gary
Social climber
Hell is empty and all the devils are here
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Poedtke, what's your thoughts on this:
The Wisconsin Republican said part of the discussion surrounding mental health legislation is who should and shouldn't have access to guns, but he signaled that barring gun purchases by people on no-fly terror lists — as President Obama urged Wednesday — is not an option.
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dirtbag
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Hddj-yep. Eastside = heaven on earth.
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Poor Obama. He's blinded by his (love?) Islam.
Liberalism truly is a DISEASE..
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HighDesertDJ
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Chaz posted It's already a FELONY to possess the guns they used to shoot up San Bernardino.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/04/us/weapons-in-san-bernardino-shootings-were-legally-obtained.html?_r=0
The guns were purchased legally and modified using technology legally installed by the manufacturer. The "black market" argument in America is absurd considering it's legal to purchase these kinds of weapons and we shield the manufacturers from any responsibility. We track purchases of fertilizer, our digital communications are an open book but weapons used to kill tens of thousands of people a year are untrackable. Are you really telling me that it wouldn't have been useful information to know these people were stockpiling this stuff? The government has to be able to read my sexts but I can purchase as many high powered semi-auto weapons as I want anonymously?
I should clarify that I don't think gun registration alone is a panacea, it's a start. Our current regime of gun ownership has failed. 12,000 homicides and 20,000 suicides annually is not evidence of a system that works.
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HermitMaster
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my abode
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Mind you that as a profile, people purchasing guns in the US are relatively likely to commit violent acts when you contrast them with people applying for asylum. It's not even close.
Got a link for this?
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rottingjohnny
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Shetville , North of Los Angeles
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Feinstein tried to ban gun sales to suspects on the no-fly list...Most of the republicans blocked the bill which to me says republicans encourage gun sales to suspected terrorists... republicans are moronic hypocrites living in constant fear of losing NRA campaign funding while putting Americans in harms way...Talk about caving in to special interests..
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philo
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 4, 2015 - 07:58am PT
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