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philo
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philo
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You know what is really cool about these pics and in particular the last one?
It is that there is Tessie and Wayne's son Kaiden on the evening before flying to Seattle to see his awesome dad who is now confined to a wheel chair and unable to speak hanging around Jeff Lowe who is also confined to a wheel chair and unable to speak.
It was significant that Kaiden saw Jeff being in his situation as a normal not bad thing.
What a cool kid.
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Ghost
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A long way from where I started
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I will post what I want, where I want, whenever I want and as often as I want.
Interesting. Clearly, you feel that, regardless of what anyone else thinks, you will post what you want, where you want, whenever you want, and as often as you want.
Fair enough. But if that apples for you, why do you complain about what other people post? Why do you get all exercised about what your "detractors" post? If you can post whatever you feel like posting, why shouldn't they?
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philo
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philo
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philo
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Hey man its a party with friends
And its in Colorado.
You got a problem with that?
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jonnyrig
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What... I made a simple statement. What makes you think it's about you? Just adding to the party atmosphere you're creating. Party on dude!
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philo
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philo
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I'm going to keep posting up the love and good vibrations.
Let others demonstrate their need for a diaper Change.
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philo
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Among the wonderful folk attending the Big Spring BBQ and Giant Cookie Fest was this beautiful lady.
Don't let her model good looks fool you she is as hard and gnarly an extreme athlete as it gets.
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philo
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I'm going to keep posting up the love and good vibrations.
Let others demonstrate their need for a diaper Change.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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I'm going to keep posting
Yeah, we get that but, as Ghost politely asked, why can't we?
BTW, I'm looking at picking up about 100 shares of Beretta stock,
do you think it is a good move?
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philo
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bvb
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flagstaff arizona
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John M
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my diapers full.. can someone change it?
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philo
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philo
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I made these gingerbread cookie cams for our Big Spring BBQ and Giant Cookie Fest party.
Incredible edible gear.
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philo
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Repost from - Dec 14, 2008 - 01:03am PT
When Jim Nigro and I topped out on our one day free ascent of the Diagonal Will route we were haggard and stretched paper thin. As usual the dehydration felt like breathing sand. Skin having been exposed to the blaring sun that day was now pink and somewhat crispy. Having done the approach in the rock shoes that were still on our feet we were well past feeling them. Situation normal all systems go.
Even though I had topped out here once before I quickly became disoriented. We stumbled haphazardly midst the pinon and juniper for what seemed like hours. Finally well past dark with many a false start behind us and on the verge of utter exhaustion we tripped upon the trail. AAAHH the trail. Soon the road. That sweet rutted two track with the wonderful dips where cool air pools up like oasis. I always slowed and lingered in those pockets of refreshingly chilled O2. Now we know we can hobble down this stretch with closed eyes. We are home free. We'll be back in the camp we left this very morning in no time. We know exactly what to expect at every turn. Everything.
Everything that is except a table cloth. "What the Phuck is that a table cloth?" That was Jim yelling. We finally found our way back to camp sometime after midnight and now Jim was beginning to wake sleepers up with his verbalized consternation. There it was, a table cloth. A table cloth in our campsite on our camp site table. A red and white checked italian restaurant style table cloth on our table! With neatly arrayed condiments. ???? Jim and I never used a table cloth. We were content to eat tuna with pitons. We were content in the dirt. By now both Jim and I were apoplectic that some touron-osaur had copped our site in our absence. We proclaimed our displeasure loudly. "Don't they know we are heros?" "We just went down and climbed one of the all time nasties (and though we are spent beyond reserves and a stiff breeze may knock us over) will take on any of you slackers!" By now little lights start popping up all around as we throw our hissy fit. We hear laughing from several directions and rustling from our absconded camp site. Thats when I notice It. If you thought Jim seeing the table cloth was bad you should have seen me when I laid eyes on the freaking canvas circus tent some @#%*%@ erected all over my site! What was the world coming to! I was ready to chew the head off the first jerk wad I saw. Oh pity them! When to my fatigue baffled surprise out of the tent pops none other than my sister, bathrobe slippers and all. She had planned to and succeeded at surprising me. I mean really a Coleman circus tent and a checked table cloth were nearly more than we could handle. If not for the left overs, beer and homemade apple pie she served us things might have gone badly.
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madbolter1
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Denver, CO
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OK right. So how many of you can tell me how many school shootings have occurred since Columbine? How many dead students and teacher in those shootings? How many could name even a few schools involved.
Not to turn this into "the gun thread" again, but you, philo, just toss crap like this out and expect it to stand because we don't want to get into the "gun debate" with the likes of you on this thread. So you "win" by default, and when you are getting called on it, you drop into the mode of "mass-shootings" of copy/pasted posts of massive lists and other spam.
So, before you throw off your very temporary "nice guy" persona and revert to classic form, here is the answer to your question and all questions like it:
Every public "mass shooting" resulting in three or more dead has occurred in a "gun free zone." Schools, movie theaters, malls... the list goes on. What you "fixers" don't ever seem to tumble to as you trot out your numbers is that all of those numbers went down in "gun free zones," places intentionally selected by assailants because they knew that they would face little to no initial resistance!
And this FACT is coming out clearly in the Holmes trial, in which his careful planning is portrayed in his notebooks, showing potential location-proximity to police response, with estimated timelines. Whack jobs like this very intentionally select the softest of soft-targets and then calculate how much unresisted time they will likely have for their mayhem.
You can't turn the entire USA into a "gun free zone," just as all attempts have utterly failed to turn it into a "drug free zone" or earlier a "hard-liquor-free zone."
So there will always be whack jobs like Holmes who will get their hands on guns and then seek out the softest of soft-targets, as they intentionally plan how much mayhem they can produce before ARMED response finally shows up to put them down. And no proposed laws are going to keep a guy like Holmes from doing what he is determined to do.
You can't make it "harder" for him to do what he's going to do. All you can accomplish is to end it as quickly as possible once a guy like him starts shooting.
Had there been ONE armed and competent CCW holder in Holmes's theater, there WOULD have been fewer people killed, as the "good guy with a gun" (be it cop or citizen) would have at the very least kept Holmes occupied and distracted; best case, Holmes would have been shot down within seconds.
Instead, these "gun free zones" are magnets for whack jobs who carefully plan around the very fact that armed resistance will only come from the outside, and then only within a predictable period of time!
So, while you are wringing your hands about the school shootings, take a closer (and accurate) look at the causal chains leading up to them. Perhaps you might finally realize that your "arguments" actually favor the very perspective you oppose. When the bullets start flying, as they necessarily will, at least SOME of them should be from the guns of good citizens!
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