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dirtbag
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Nov 19, 2015 - 06:14pm PT
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The GOP is the FUP.
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WBraun
climber
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Nov 19, 2015 - 06:15pm PT
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Just as the US main stream media is completely fuking worthless and full of stoopid useless fools so is this stoopid worthless politard thread with same stooopid sh!t being said every day.
You loons need a vacation.
Oh wait forget that and just keep drooling and puking away in here .....
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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Nov 19, 2015 - 06:46pm PT
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WTF is Craig and Cranksore on vacation?
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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Nov 19, 2015 - 07:39pm PT
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Nah, at a route every 6 horizontal inches, the Leap is tapped out. Take the quicker drive out to ER and work on Protrumpkin Village-it's right next to Cranksore Crater's.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Dec 14, 2015 - 10:04am PT
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Nice avatar pic, Locker!
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
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Obama , i mean Romeycare will be a poor compromise until we get rid of the Insurance companies, aka middlemen, leeches , who keep increasing premiums to pad their off-shore bank accounts... most fearful Americans have been brow - beaten into thinking they will die if Mortimer Snurd , CEO of Blue Shield isn't making 15 million a year... keep forking over your life savings to keep Mortimer happy and please keep whining about how socialized medicine won't work...
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
Nov 1, 2016 - 09:39pm PT
Obama , i mean Romeycare will be a poor compromise until we get rid of the Insurance companies, aka middlemen, leeches , who keep increasing premiums to pad their off-shore bank accounts... most fearful Americans have been brow - beaten into thinking they will die if Mortimer Snurd , CEO of Blue Shield isn't making 15 million a year... keep forking over your life savings to keep Mortimer happy and please keep whining about how socialized medicine won't work...
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Now that's prophetic...and factual.
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Single payer is the only way to go.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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It can't work as long as chickenshite Democrats keep voting for the Pentagon.
At some point they have to man up and decide whether they want bombs or
healthcare. They can't have it both ways. The insurance companies are
just a distraction.
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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I shared this earlier tonight on the "When Trump Wins" thread, but it appears to fit in better here.
Nov 1, 2016 - 05:39pm PT
Rick Sumner! I'm a little slow replying to your health-insurance fuking post from this morning.
Nov 1, 2016 - 09:49am PT
Here's my assignments: how do I pay my new obamacare insurance premium. I have to laugh when I hear of mere 116% increases. Mine is 279%.
WOW! That's one hell of an insurance company fuking, but that's how they can afford to build those big buildings they favor for HQ's.
I remember someone suggested you find a new provider & I can only concur. I've gone on to the land of Medi-Care, but Heidi isn't quite there. Her Blue Cross $5,000 deductable policy, that pays every penny of charges above the first $5,000.00 yearly, costs us about $500.00 a month.
About 20 years ago, we decided to invest in the health-care companies that have done so well for all these years. So we became them. I suspect the healthcare companies will do very well, whoever gets elected president, but if your boy Trump gets elected, they should do very, very well.
I still advocate the Vanguard Healthcare Fund for great earnings from the healthcare industry, that does so well under both Republican & Democratic presidents.
Here's a current snapshot. An average annual gain of 16.64% over the last 30 years seems good in these troubled times. It hasn't done as well this year, but Trump should change that. Right?
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Bad Climber
Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
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Wow, Fritz, ain't that the truth! If Trump gets in, he did mention one policy idea that's really good. Whether or not it happens, of course, is up in the air: The idea of allowing insurance companies to do business across state lines. Why this isn't already the case is the gift of lobbyists working on state-centered monopolies. Right now, if a company in, say, Arkansas has a great plan that would work for me in California, I'm FORBIDDEN from using it. Free market economy? Hah-phreakin'-ha. So many politicians are gutless, self-centered, cowardly a-holes. Drives me nutz.
BAd
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apogee
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Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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'Selling across state lines' is band-aid solution to a system that is intrinsically dysfunctional. Healthcare in this country will remain f*#ked up as long as it is driven by profit-minded insurance companies.
It's that simple.
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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It can't work as long as chickenshite Democrats keep voting for the Pentagon.
Wait a minute Reilly. Your boy trump wants to increase the size of the military.
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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It ain't solely a heath insurance Co fuking old Fritz. The Dems that ran the enabling ACA legislation down the American gullet didn't bother to read any of the 2700 pages past the section outlining their personal and political gain. Your boys and gals own it, Fritz, 100%. Not a single repub vote or amendment attached.
No worry, I'll just allocate sufficient self insurance funds and join the new legions of middle and upper class uninsured.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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10b, "my boy Trump"? Don't tell me you're one of the ST reading comprehension
challenged, too! Show me one post I've made saying that he's "my boy." ;-)
I am on record for saying that the ACA sucks, but so do some of my relatives who,
while they may not be in my will, I harbor no genuine animosity for,
BUT, like the ACA, I would like to see improved, vastly.
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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10b, "my boy Trump"? Don't tell me you're one of the ST reading comprehension
challenged, too! Show me one post I've made saying that he's "my boy." ;-)
I am on record for saying that the ACA sucks, but so do some of my relatives who,
while they may not be in my will, I harbor no genuine animosity for,
BUT, like the ACA, I would like to see improved, vastly.
I apologize for my bad assumption, Reilly.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Romney, who if I recall correctly is both a Mormon (therefore, not likely a Satanist) and a Republican was for Obamacare. He even had his own version of it.
Does it (Obamacare) need some significant fixing up? Why yes, just like the folks here on the ST in varying degrees.
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WBraun
climber
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Modern science makes everyone sick with cancer and then charges them to death for their medical.
Modern science makes sterile sh!t food which makes everyone sick too.
They fuk you twice and Americans just accept this bullsh!t.
Medicine and health care should be free.
Instead, it's the biggest racket of them all.
Totally criminal ....
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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Nov 12, 2016 - 09:36am PT
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At some point, after many more failed experiments, perhaps even libs will tumble to the fact that it CANNOT be government's (read: the taxpayers') job to insure that nobody can be screwed over by the circumstances of life.
The USA was never designed to be thought of nor operate as one giant "risk pool."
And the more grand freebies you make the taxpayers (that dwindling body politic) pay for, the more those taxpayers are going to demand a limit on the risk pool, which means closed borders and the sterilization of those moochers that can "contribute" nothing but an endless pop, pop, pop of yet another kid into the risk pool.
Ah, but that's "fascism." LOL
You'll see, libs. The free lunch is about at an end. And "fascism" is the necessary REACTION to the left-gone-wild.
Years ago, even as the libs were RECKLESSLY saying, "We have to pass this to see what's in it," I was saying: "What's IN it is that the insurance companies lobbied hardest for this thing! You'll see. This is never going to go 'our way.' There's no 'reform' here. It's now an even more profit-driven machine."
Now, you libs are literally repeating that sentiment, and you think that you are oh-so-wise to NOW recognize that Obamacare WAS ALWAYS doomed to failure BECAUSE it simply handed us over to the insurance companies on a silver platter. What can work (after a fashion) at the level of an individual state CANNOT work nationwide, a fact that continues to elude you.
Ah, but now you have the "better" idea: Single payer. And you learned NOTHING from the most recent failed experiment. You "masterminds" always believe that you can "tweak" it and "fix" it, if only you could have the POWER to FORCE America to become "the way it should be." (Trump is NO different in this regard.)
A small subset of America is going to get a brain tumor that it can't pay for. In coping with that fact, there are other alternatives besides in some way FORCING every other American to "buck up" and "unselfishly" pay for it.
Sadly, the "brave" Supertopians are aging, and they see that the only way that they can afford to push diseases' and death's icy grip away for a bit longer is to FORCE America to "buck up" and "unselfishly" pay for the meds, etc. that are the closest thing to their fountain of youth. And so America can no longer be the land of the free and the home of the brave.
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