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Toker Villain

Big Wall climber

Toquerville, Utah

Jul 26, 2012 - 06:00pm PT

When your balls look like they are being rope hoisted by helicopter in a cargo net.

michaeld

Sport climber

Sacramento

Jul 26, 2012 - 06:01pm PT

Gross

michaeld

Sport climber

Sacramento

Jul 26, 2012 - 06:50pm PT

^^^^

monolith

climber

albany,ca

Jul 26, 2012 - 07:01pm PT

Yeah, so it jams with 30 rounds left. 70 were spent. And he goes to the hand guns. So what?

And as been said before, "well regulated" means well trained, as in National Guard training once a month, not the best shot at the gun range.

It's funny when you guys backslap.

Toker Villain

Big Wall climber

Toquerville, Utah

Jul 26, 2012 - 07:02pm PT

Guy didn't function test his Betamag.

What a gumby.

michaeld

Sport climber

Sacramento

Jul 26, 2012 - 08:10pm PT

Because guns are dangerous:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=481_1343238923

PSP also PP

Trad climber

Berkeley

Jul 26, 2012 - 08:11pm PT

I grew up around guns and was taught that if I ever pointed a gun at a person no matter what that would be the last time I ever was allowed to have a gun in my hands . My friends had BB guns and shot each other with them and had no respect for what guns were. During deer hunting season in the catskills we were afraid to go outside because all of the yahoos from Long Island out there walking around with high power rifles.

Now my friend from Marin County has gotten into guns he thinks they are really fun. He even bought an assault rifle and likes to go to Nevada and shoot the sh#t out of his guns.

I don't like to be around people with guns that think they are fun toys to play with. I am afraid they will accidentally kill me.

michaeld

Sport climber

Sacramento

Jul 26, 2012 - 08:17pm PT

Ok. Your friends need education, and so do you.

fear

Ice climber

hartford, ct

Jul 26, 2012 - 08:24pm PT

Some real gun-phobes here. They are seriously fun but obviously not toys.

Fun like riding a motocross bike. Fun like solo'ing something you know you have nailed.

But like people that never try to climb because they say "I'm afraid of heights" or "motorcycles are dangerous", some people will just never try.

And that's ok. More for me.

michaeld

Sport climber

Sacramento

Jul 26, 2012 - 08:26pm PT

I guess by PSP needing an education, I misread the part where if they pointed a gun at someone it'd be the last time. I assume they meant by when growing up, if they pointed a gun. My bad.

Yes Jebus, 100% of gunshot wounds are linked to guns. That is a FACT.

Toker Villain

Big Wall climber

Toquerville, Utah

Jul 26, 2012 - 08:59pm PT

I don't think that 100% are actually linked, but I think there may be grounds for suspicion,..

Shack

Big Wall climber

Reno NV

Jul 26, 2012 - 09:39pm PT

It's really hard to have a discussion about a topic when one side is so unfamiliar with the subject matter.

It's like trying to discuss bolting ethics or the pros and cons of different types of bolts with someone who doesn't climb and hasn't ever placed a bolt.

Not trying to pick on you Stevep, but this is a perfect example.

I'm certainly no expert, but it is pretty hard for me to think of very many "dust-ups" where a hi-cap mag would be necessary. Maybe if you're a gang-banger or drug lord fighting off an equally well-armed foe. You're probably not going to carry a big mag to the movie, so even though it might help in a situation like the CO one, you probably won't have it.

The mag on the left is a 10 round mag and the one on the right is a 15 round "hi-capacity" mag.
Do you see why that statement about "big" mags made no sense?

BTW it's a good thing the guy in CO didn't know the rubber band trick or how to bump fire.

Gary

climber

"My god - it's full of stars!"

Jul 26, 2012 - 10:02pm PT

It's really hard to have a discussion about a topic when one side is so unfamiliar with the subject matter.

You assume much.

rottingjohnny

Sport climber

mammoth lakes ca

Jul 26, 2012 - 10:06pm PT

Right Shack...I'm sure the kin of the murdered are grateful for that...A true zen moment...

Chaz

Trad climber

greater Boss Angeles area

Jul 26, 2012 - 10:11pm PT

Shack writes:

"It's really hard to have a discussion about a topic when one side is so unfamiliar with the subject matter."

You're telling me. Just try explaining to some people that a "pristine bullet" is not one that is flattened on the side.

Shack

Big Wall climber

Reno NV

Jul 26, 2012 - 10:17pm PT

You assume much.

I didn't assume anything. I cited one example of many.

I'm sure the kin of the murdered are grateful for that...A true zen moment...

Can you explain? I have no idea what you are referring to.

Simply stating an observation.
Most of the anti crowd is very unfamiliar with guns and gun laws.
You think I'm wrong? Fine, whatever.

Toker Villain

Big Wall climber

Toquerville, Utah

Jul 26, 2012 - 11:12pm PT

Hi-cap mags are anything but high tech.

A box, a spring, a follower and a floorplate.

Hard to eliminate something a fourth grader can figure out how to make with garage tools.

donini

Trad climber

Ouray, Colorado

Jul 26, 2012 - 11:50pm PT

Let's try the United Kingdom gun control system. The US rate of homicides committed with guns is 40 times higher than the rate in the UK. Who knows....they might be on to something.

Just stirring the pot....getting kinda one sided.