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crankster
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You know nothing. We don't live by your right wing tv kangaroo court.
The real world is quite different. The military justice system will handle this, not Glenn Beck.
You can't and won't ever understand. You've given in to dark and evil forces.
We don't leave POW's behind.
This was a heroic act and history will judge it that way.
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John M
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Ron, Do you even understand PTSD ?
Do you remember the videos of POWs during Vietnam who said all kinds of things, including that they were being treated well, which we know was a lie?
Four months ago, Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) said he could support the kind of trade Obama made to get Bergdahl back. When it happened, McCain declared, “I would have not made this deal.”
this is disgusting..
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John Duffield
Mountain climber
New York
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wow, Hypocrisy in Washington. I'm stunned.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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And he "praised allah" in arabic on the whitehouse lawn,,
Rong, you are so funny.
If a CHRISTIAN chose to say a CHRISTIAN prayer in arabic, you know what he would pray to? ALLAH. Because that IS the word for God in arabic. That is NOT the arabic word for the Muslim God, but a generic term.
So it would be correct to say that Rong's God that he prays to is called "ALLAH" in arabic.
God is great.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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please troll when it's On Topic
Not on debate threads
That's gotta be the funniest thing ever said on Supertopo.
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crankster
Trad climber
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Jun 10, 2014 - 06:14am PT
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Jon Stewart nails it. Watch "Operation Deserter Storm: Home is Where the Hate Is".
Honestly, the right wing does not have a conscious, which makes trying to debate them impossible. The buffoonery at Fox is unmatched. Not hard to figure out here who tunes into Fox for their "news".
http://www.hulu.com/watch/646785
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lostinshanghai
Social climber
someplace
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Jun 10, 2014 - 06:51am PT
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Abraham Lincoln
“Government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the Earth”.
That is how he saw it, now it is:
Government of the corporations, by the corporations, for the corporations, shall not perish from the Earth.
He also said: “America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves”.
The BAE [UK company] team developed the ARGUS-IS array as a project funded by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA). The importance of this surveillance imaging system centers on its unprecedented capability in finding, tracking and monitoring events in real time. [nothing new just that the technology is progressing faster than one would think]
http://www.youtube.com/v/AHrZgS-Gvi4
Nova PBS Jan 2013? Funded by Koch bros Ok! Take that back one of them: David baby. He also funded “Facial Recognition” which aired on PBS Sept. 2013?
As for the elections coming up and Fox News and all the propaganda [HATE] guess who? Why? Control.
“which makes trying to debate them impossible” Takes money and he [corporation/corporations] who has the most wins.
It will be interesting how this Bergdahl and Vegas shooting plays out?
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Jun 10, 2014 - 08:53am PT
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Moral narcissism creates an atmosphere of dishonesty bizarrely similar to Islamic taqqiya. In Islam, the believer is permitted to lie to the non-believer because the believer has the greater truth. For the moral narcissist, lies becomes truth in almost the same manner. Some like Dan Rather (a moral narcissist par excellence) could thus pronounce the Bush National Guard papers real when anyone with an IQ in triple digits could see that they were fake. They felt real to Dan. And, crucially, that made him feel good about himself.
In the Bergdahl affair, what really was operative in the prisoner swap was Barack Obama’s feelings about himself. Never mind that Bergdahl may have been a deserter whose sympathies were with the enemy. Never mind that many U.S. servicemen had already been killed attempting to rescue him. Never mind that the five released prisoners were all likely to resume their lives of terror as soon as possible, murdering who knows how many more people. And never mind that the release of the terrorists would only encourage the Taliban to kidnap more hostages. What mattered was how Barack perceived himself.
Moral narcissism has become a virus infecting our society from the high levels of the POTUS to the man on the street. Where did this all begin? My generation, as usual, had a lot to do with it. In the words of “The Animals”:
Baby, do you understand me now
Sometimes I feel a little mad
But don’t you know that no one alive
Can always be an angel
When things go wrong I seem to be bad
But I’m just a soul whose intentions are good
Oh Lord, please don’t let me be misunderstood
http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2014/06/05/obama-bergdahl-moral-narcissism/?singlepage=true
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crankster
Trad climber
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Jun 10, 2014 - 09:16am PT
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couchmaster
climber
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Jun 10, 2014 - 12:30pm PT
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Ahhh, it's comeout today in the Daily Mail that the Whitehouse is blaming Hegal for this one. I find that a serious uptick to the usual blaming of Bush. So there's some hope and change for ya. The buck is going to keep getting passed.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2653672/Now-White-House-says-Hagel-final-call-Bergdahl-criticism-Obama-prisoner-swap-mounts.html
snipit of the articles start:
"Final approval for the prisoner exchange that freed Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl was made by Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel, members of Congress learned on Monday from administration officials. 'They indicated (it was) Secretary Hagel (who made the final call),' Rep. Buck McKeon (R-CA) said after a classified briefing, ABC points out. 'It was the president of the United States that came out (in the Rose Garden) with the Bergdahls and took all the credit and now that there’s been a little pushback he’s moving away from it and it’s Secretary Hagel?'"
So the Blame Bush campaign has finally finished after 6 years? Hope and Change baby, Hope and Change right there.
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crankster
Trad climber
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Jun 10, 2014 - 01:21pm PT
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the Whitehouse is blaming Hegal for this one
Blame? Ha! Hagel is the Defense Secretary - he might have some say in the matter. And it was a good decision. The dad shaves his beard and all you righties will change your mind.
Your score:
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John Duffield
Mountain climber
New York
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Jun 10, 2014 - 01:31pm PT
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sorry, we never had Afghanistan. The Bergdahl situation shows our troops can't even walk off base. Even in Viet Nam, troops could go downtown and sh#t.
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crankster
Trad climber
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Jun 10, 2014 - 01:33pm PT
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BHO
Yikes, the middle name - wingNut giveaway!
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Lollie
Social climber
I'm Lolli.
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Jun 10, 2014 - 05:23pm PT
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If he was kidnapped, it's not odd at all he joined them. That's the Stockholm syndrome. A survival strategy, of the mind.
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ontheedgeandscaredtodeath
Social climber
SLO, Ca
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Jun 10, 2014 - 05:30pm PT
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All the tough guy, death to deserters crowd could get on a plane tomorrow and go fight to their heart's content in Syria, Iraq or Afghanistan or wherever. I'm pretty sure that they will instead talk sh#t on the internet about what other people should be doing.
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dirtbag
climber
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Jun 10, 2014 - 05:34pm PT
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^^^^^This.
Coming from the same group of chickenhawks that cheerled the Iraq war.
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ontheedgeandscaredtodeath
Social climber
SLO, Ca
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Jun 10, 2014 - 05:39pm PT
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And sat on their ass while it was fought (and is being fought).
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crankster
Trad climber
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Jun 16, 2014 - 07:10pm PT
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Mar 27, 2015 - 06:03am PT
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That is really not the point. The point is that he’s back. He’s going to be safely reunited with his family. He served the United States with honor and distinction and we'll have the opportunity, eventually, to learn what has transpired in the past years, but what's most important now is his health and well-being. That he has the opportunity to recover in peace and security and be reunited with his family, which is why this is such a joyous day.
The Army has charged Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl with desertion and misbehavior before the enemy, officials announced Wednesday.
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