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corniss chopper

climber
breaking the speed of gravity
Mar 3, 2011 - 12:48pm PT
Diss Me, Kate

In the interest of civility, some sources have suggested that they weren't
invited simply because England couldn't afford the cost of the additional
security which would be needed to keep Michelle from eating all the jumbo
shrimp at the wedding reception. But we think there's more to it than that.

After all, Barack Obama has gone out of his way to offend the British every
chance he gets..

(cartoons and commentary)
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dirtbag

climber
Mar 3, 2011 - 12:52pm PT
Dipsh#t.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Mar 3, 2011 - 07:14pm PT
There is a much easier way to assure the free flow of oil at market prices - DUMP THE ISRAEL / US ALLIANCE.

Dingus, if I'm not mistaken the majority of foreign US oil comes from Canada and Mexico.

Drilling more of our own oil would make us less dependant on OPEC oil, thus lowering prices. I don't see what Israel has to do with the price of oil. It's about OPEC gouging us at their will.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Mar 3, 2011 - 07:30pm PT
Scott, maybe you can summarize very briefly the gist of the book.

I don't think any sane person thinks we can use oil indefinately, but that doesn't mean we should stop within the next 20 years or so.

EDIT:

I'm not suggesting we go to war, I've lost many friends; but, I think our dependance on foreign oil, mostly OPEC oil, is causing great risk and problems not only for our future, but the Worlds future.

This book very clearly lays out, everything you need to know about the current situation, were we get our oil, how much is left, and what are the alternative.

Also the struggle for control and dominance of supply, there are many ways to control oil, with military power is extreme, but used most recently in the Iraq.
current

O.k.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Mar 3, 2011 - 07:37pm PT
Another thing that pisses me off is Iraq. First of all it was not a war for oil obviously, the first oil contracts went to the freakin' Chinese!!!

You'd think the ungrateful bastards could at least give us the initial contracts at bargain prices to repay their liberation from Saddam. Which carried a hefty pricetag.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Mar 3, 2011 - 07:50pm PT
http://www.mapsofwar.com/images/EMPIRE17.swf
corniss chopper

climber
breaking the speed of gravity
Mar 3, 2011 - 07:57pm PT
The Chinese-Iragi contracts are a clever way to gain leverage over
Hu Jintao, the General Secretary of China. The delivery of cheap Iraqi oil to China can suddenly be delayed by all sorts of shenanigans if things
are not kept copacetic.

bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Mar 3, 2011 - 07:59pm PT
CC, maybe. And I see how that could work.

But still, I look at it as a slap in the face to not allow more contracts to us.

EDIT: This is a good sign;

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/03/iraq-oil-exxon-idUSLDE72212K20110303

And meh;

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-03-03/iraq-oil-exports-may-rise-to-13-year-high-as-kurdish-crude-flows.html
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Mar 3, 2011 - 08:29pm PT
It was about removing a UN sanction violator from power. One who bragged of having WMD's. One who commited atrocities against his own people on at least 2 occassions.

We were tasked with watching this POS for 10 years while he defied UN sanctions. No-fly zones were threatened constantly by his ground troops with SAM sites.

At some point, you either pull out and say, "forget it!", or you remove the threat. Saddam and his Republican Guard.
Delhi Dog

climber
Good Question...
Mar 3, 2011 - 08:53pm PT
"Delhi Dog,

I am always referring to their dictators, quasi-elected leaders and most importantly, religious clerics."

Why don't you just f*king write that then...?
Sounds like you make a distinction...unlike Blue.

Thanks for answering my question.

Cheers,
DD
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Mar 3, 2011 - 09:17pm PT
Sounds like you make a distinction...unlike Blue.

What? I think you may have this backwards.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Mar 3, 2011 - 10:09pm PT
Since when did you start supporting the UN?

Never had, never will. But according to dipshits like you and others they are they arbiters of 'ultimate peace'. Sounds nice. It just nevers works.

We used that as an excusr to take out an obvious tyrant. That's all we needed. The UN dipshits had no arguement to counter us when we pointed out their fallacies.

Pretty smart actually. Unlike O-bummer. What an idiot. Mo-town celebrations and arts medals ceremonies while his buddy in Libya bomb his own people.

Woo-hoo!

Hey, wasn't Libya on the 'human rights council' too? And we get criticized for an accidental bombing of some civis hiding amonst Talibunnies....

What a crock.

bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Mar 3, 2011 - 10:14pm PT
You're little, childish one line insults are tiresome. Get some facts and grow a sack.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Mar 3, 2011 - 10:20pm PT
How about those Haliburton no-bid contracts the US borrowed Chinese money to give away. Whaddaya gonna do about it?

Did you have anything to say about Al Gore and Bill Clinton's no-bid contract regarding the Elk Hills Naval Reserves when they sold them off to Occidental Petroleum? Oh, Al Gore's Dad and he had stock in that company too!!!

Any comment, Dingus? A.C.? Anybody? Was that 'different'.

Losers....
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Mar 3, 2011 - 10:28pm PT
So what would commader in chief Crowley, what would he have done with Iraq at the time?
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Mar 3, 2011 - 10:30pm PT
Dingus, what question? The Chinese deals? I would have told them to piss off.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Mar 3, 2011 - 10:34pm PT
Crowley doesn't utter racist remarks on a daily basis either, like you for example.

How am I a racist? I am far from it. I judge people based on character, despite their race.

It's idiots like y'all that judge people first on their race and then on what they say.

Did I ever make an untrue racist comment here???? If so, please post the quote for all to see.

Remember it has to be based on race.....
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Mar 3, 2011 - 10:40pm PT
Iraq posed NO THREAT to the US whatsoever and the lies that portrayed it differently were exposed 8 years ago.


No not really, but you are quick to forget history aren't ya? He invaded Kuwait and threatened Saudi Arabia, our 3rd source of oil. You think we'll let that stand?

That was the 1st Gulf War. Saddam didn't seem to want to relent. Just the opposite in fact...
Delhi Dog

climber
Good Question...
Mar 3, 2011 - 11:31pm PT
"How am I a racist? I am far from it. I judge people based on character, despite their race.

It's idiots like y'all that judge people first on their race and then on what they say.

Did I ever make an untrue racist comment here???? If so, please post the quote for all to see.

Remember it has to be based on race....."

If you need to ask that, nothing I can show you that you have written will make a difference. You can knott recognize your own racist statements, therefore why point them out to you. That would be an exercise in fruitility.

It's like using the bible to prove God exist to people that do knott believe in God. Can't be done.

Sorry dude but I'm knott the only one that recognizes you as a bigotted racist... and I can knott prove to you you are.

By the way true or untrue racism is still racism...

later
DD


dogtown

Trad climber
JackAssVille, Wyoming
Mar 3, 2011 - 11:32pm PT
Fattad nailed it; it’s all on the U.S in the blame game. Even though The U.S. is the most generous nation on earth. There is no Peace keeping leadership in the Middle East at all. Not one. Let them kill each other and the U.S. should stay out of it. American leaders have done their best for decades to make peace. TIME TO LEAVE. Screw them and the oil!

Let me ask you all this; How many of you would rather help the homeless in the U.S. than give one more dime in aid those countries whose people and governments hate us?
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