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MissJ
Social climber
AZ
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Sep 16, 2012 - 10:10pm PT
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Jody, this ois pnly for you. You're an example to live by. Thanks for not giving up. Did you get my personal reply?
My only question is What if the Atheist find out they are wrong. Scientist have had to change their findings over and over again. the thing is we who belive go by faith not sight. I have had too many experiences to not believe and I will not forsake him ever. If things go wrong it's the devil who is at work. some just don't see it that way. Of cousre this is a debate that can go on forever because the christian knows Gods works and the atheist only knows the devil.
Maybe we can change one atheist at a time.
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MissJ
Social climber
AZ
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Sep 16, 2012 - 10:23pm PT
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DR. F I doubt you have set any christian straight as you proclaim. Certainly not me. I know GOD. It's a spiritual thing. you can not change that .
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Sep 16, 2012 - 10:33pm PT
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drF
Good thing ur not talking about mohomid;
U might have to be beheaded...
Jus Say'in
BB
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MissJ
Social climber
AZ
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Sep 16, 2012 - 10:37pm PT
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Dr. F, We who know God do not need to change . We know our paths and bitd ,what exactly happened that you had a chnge of heart?
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Sep 16, 2012 - 10:51pm PT
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Know god...no, you have FAITH that there is a god. I'll take knowledge over faith every time.
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MissJ
Social climber
AZ
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Sep 16, 2012 - 10:58pm PT
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Donini, what positive knowledge do you have ?
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Sep 16, 2012 - 11:01pm PT
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good luck, atheist. And God bless....
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Sep 16, 2012 - 11:04pm PT
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thanks bluey...
What if the Atheist find out they are wrong.
what if they are right?
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Sep 16, 2012 - 11:04pm PT
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With a small g....please.
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Sep 16, 2012 - 11:08pm PT
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Donini
You couldn't be more wrong!
All your knowledge is relative!
The only truth you know are your experiences....
The only truth I know goes in and out of my heart...
Every thing in my head could be proven wrong.
Jus Express'in
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Sep 16, 2012 - 11:14pm PT
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What if the Atheist find out they are wrong.
what if they are right?
Ed, this is why I love you, man.
Isn't that the question? The ultimate question? I'm sure you know that even Einstein had questions about this before his death.
Big question. Big answer...
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Sep 16, 2012 - 11:16pm PT
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not only is that a big question,
it is one we all answer ourselves...
what does it matter to anyone else what I have decided is the answer?
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MissJ
Social climber
AZ
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Sep 16, 2012 - 11:23pm PT
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Ed, there is no question that those who have faith will not be proven wrong. And what, if in some moment you question your atheisim, will you do. Do you not know that each day you are given is with the grace of God? Each breath you take, each time you use your senses of thinking,of sight and sound, each appendage movement is but for the grace of God? You get to begin a new day and have the opportunity to give thanks for all He has given you and to try and live in His likeness. We may fall short in that but we are given each day to try again.
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Captain...or Skully
climber
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Sep 16, 2012 - 11:28pm PT
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So quit polluting the atheist thread with yer god bullsheets.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Sep 16, 2012 - 11:31pm PT
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Einstein
The word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this.
Letter to philosopher Eric Gutkind, January 3, 1954
It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it.
 Albert Einstein, letter to an atheist (1954), quoted in Albert Einstein: The Human Side, edited by Helen Dukas & Banesh Hoffman
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Sep 16, 2012 - 11:51pm PT
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what does it matter to anyone else what I have decided is the answer?
You answer the question in your own manner. The answer is inside us as individuals.
It is that simple.
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WBraun
climber
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Sep 17, 2012 - 01:15am PT
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Ed H -- "what does it matter to anyone else what I have decided is the answer?"
Because we are not fully and completely independent.
All our actions interact in some way or other with the whole.
That is why the word responsibility caries so much weight ......
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Sep 17, 2012 - 04:00pm PT
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If this is posted already, let me know.
But if He hollers, pray to Go
d.Mouse from d place dat's da best
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
-A race of corn eaters
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Sep 17, 2012 - 07:43pm PT
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Jody, you are offensive.
On so many levels.
If you keep posting your religious stupidities on this thread, the modern progressives - who have been very lenient so far - have every right (for some a felt duty even) to pull out the stops and hit you with both barrels. It's your call.
The reason people swear by "knowledge" over faith is pride. And pride is the #1 downfall of man.
What friggin nonsense. This is 21st century America. Not the Middle East. Not the 11th century. Children might be reading, for edusake. Head to your Christian thread, spare us.
Also, take a few science and history courses.
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Psilocyborg
climber
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Sep 17, 2012 - 07:51pm PT
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Jody, MissJ ....you are obviously fooled by the devil. Look at you wallowing in negativity. I will pray for you.
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