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mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
May 27, 2014 - 09:37pm PT

And now this:
http://www.davisenterprise.com/local-news/ag-environment/as-central-valley-fog-disappears-fruit-nut-crops-decline/

Which is what I have been saying since the early eighties when I moved back to the fog-hole which is fast becoming a smog-bog.

It brings to mind a trip to Yosemite Valley in 1970, in late winter, with the Rev, myself, and two of the Flames, Mark McAllister and John Yeates.

Yeates' dad owned a car rental franchise and needed four cars driven somewhere from Fresno. John picked us all up in Merced in one of his dad's rentals, one which was being sent back to the original franchise.

We finished our climbing on Sunday afternoon, drove to Fresno, picked up the other three vehicles and took off up the 99 and the 152 in then-typical dense fog.

We stayed in convoy, at night, drove at 60 steady, and no worries because we had a system: two taps on the brakes from the lead car told us he was slowing down, while a series of high beam flashes indicated, "I'm speeding back up."

John took another vehicle bound for Merced when we got to wherever (San Jose, I think, maybe SF) and drove the Rev and I and Mark to Monterey, where we lived--good old Apathy House on 16th in Pacific Grove. Then he and Mark boogied on back to Merced that morning.

We got to get PAID as well as have transportation.


Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jun 2, 2014 - 08:34am PT
Interesting article in the LA Times today about the water woes of Catalina Island.
They're talking about making restaurants use paper plates and plastic cutlery
cause they don't can't spare the water to wash dishes. They should also
mandate the distribution of condoms with the plastic spoons.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jun 2, 2014 - 09:33am PT
Pass the pistachios, please.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jun 2, 2014 - 09:41am PT
President Kennedy at San Luis Reservoir, 1962.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxfHvyVI6pE

President Kennedy's visit to the western U.S., that year.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ssOKIP_F14

It's only good if you have the water to stuff into the reservoirs.

The farmers have a chance to turn the lack of water into whine.

"Nuts!"
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jun 2, 2014 - 10:00am PT

Interesting how the actual desert in California isn't hit as hard as where a lot of the food's grown.

Of special interest to me is the Avocado Belt, the coast from OC to San Diego. Prices on the rise?

Rainy season's coming up in the desert, and each year more of it has made it over to my side of Mt San Gorgonio. I didn't measure, but I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't rain here more last summer than it did last winter.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Jun 2, 2014 - 12:55pm PT
"We knew people were diverting water for marijuana operations, but we wanted to know exactly how much," said Scott Bauer, the department biologist who studied the pot farms' effects on four watersheds. "We didn't know they could consume all the water in a stream."

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_CALIFORNIA_DROUGHT_POT_FARMS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-06-01-11-41-07
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jun 10, 2014 - 06:59pm PT
DMT wrote:
But Del Puerto???? As in Del Puerto CANYON? Well, it doesn't get much drier in the north state, except for maybe Panoche.

here's a picture to put with the place:


(not this year though)
HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Jun 10, 2014 - 07:07pm PT
Big Sur last week.
All the mountains are yellow-brown.

Tioga Pass on Sunday.
Kona crest has nice snow. Dana Couloir looked to be in fine nick in the binoculars. You'd want to be finished by 8 AM
looks easy from here

climber
Ben Lomond, CA
Jun 11, 2014 - 11:02am PT
Lake McClure looking more like the McClure River at the Hwy 49 bridge:

Chewybacca

Trad climber
Montana, Whitefish
Jun 17, 2014 - 07:35am PT
WWBGD?


[Click to View YouTube Video]




klk

Trad climber
cali
Jun 17, 2014 - 09:21am PT
did a quick tour yesterday through some of the small ranches in the foothills. unreal dry for june. and empty-- had to go miles to see a single cow. place after place has sold off everything except breeding stock.

on the 120 westbound later, i could see thousands of new acres of almonds going in-- probably at least a thousand acres more than was there just two weeks ago. those f*#kers are racing to drain the aquifer before their neighbors do.

then they're going to demand another bailout.

dollar to a donut this drought wipes out a huge chunk of the best small ranchers and farmers, and then we bailout the biggest corporate ones.



mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jun 17, 2014 - 01:23pm PT
From Malemute's posted link:
Factoring in the costs of the current plant, Orange County will soon produce twice as much water for less than one-third of the average cost of San Diego’s new desalination plant.
Reusing water that’s already been pumped to Orange County over mountain ranges also uses half the energy as importing new water.


It takes years and years for people to accept things that for centuries have been tabbo or anathema. It is also a fact that Californians generally feel entitled, so that needs to be factored as well. I'm talking about folks who've lived here for years, not the droves of newer immigrants from all over the world with slightly lower expectations...

This state is far from being a golden state, Dingus. That is the rankest propaganda, a slogan, a nickname, a motto, they all do the same, to reinforce doubt. I'm SURE they were all volunteers in Kentucky, too.

So this coming election,
You cannot afford to be fickle.
Elect Goldfinger, the Man With the Midas Touch.
He will magically stick his finger in the dike.
All will then be cool. And water relief will not have to rely on just wells no more.
The earth will stop subsiding because we have introduced a yeast into the aquifer over the years, which is going to reach a huge growth potential and bloat the surface of the ground upwards, causing massive problems with quaking earth, sinkholes appearing, and a terrible stench through the whole state, ruining everything and sending everyone packing.

First the tide rushes in at the end of the day.
San Diego is thankful, has something to say,
"Peace."

EDIT: Yes, that's the right word. "Tabbo." That's mus-speak for veboten, based on distrust of tabbies.

kunlun_shan

Mountain climber
SF, CA
Jun 17, 2014 - 01:27pm PT
What's really ridiculous, considering the drought, is all the alfalfa being shipped from California to China!


http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-feeding-china-hay-20140609-story.html

Exporters are learning something alfalfa shippers have known for years: It costs little to freight goods on the back haul to China. That's because the U.S. runs a persistently high trade deficit with China that hit a record $318 billion last year. Containers from Asia arrive full but often return empty.

"It is cheaper to ship a load of alfalfa from the Imperial Valley to China than it is to ship the same load to Tulare County," said Michael Marsh, president of the Western United Dairymen, which represents 60% of California's dairy producers.
Fat Dad

Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
Jun 17, 2014 - 02:16pm PT
It's ridiculous that they are looking to desalinization as a cure to the drought when they haven't even made any tough choices regarding use of the water already available.

I went to Stoney Point on Sunday morning. Uniformly brown as usual, but you get a sense of the natural terrain and fauna for the area. Driving home, we made a detour off the freeway to get a cup of coffee, and the first thing I notice after all that brown are the avenues of green lawns on those big SF Valley lots. Why are we still pretending to live in a lush environment when we live in a semi-arid area? One half of LA water use goes to residential lawns! When is someone going to decide to do what cities like Tucson already do and require waterless lawns?

I think it's absolute folly to be growing alfalfa in the desert, but suburban lawns aren't that far removed.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jun 17, 2014 - 02:57pm PT
Mowing lawns, watering lawns, fertilizing lawns = idolizing lawns, a useless endeavor.

And let's get real about freakin' cemeteries and golf!

I say, "Sod 'em!"

And "Piss on 'em, too!"
Paul Martzen

Trad climber
Fresno
Jun 18, 2014 - 07:21pm PT
John Sutter, a reporter for CNN, flew out from Atlanta to explore and paddle down the San Joaquin River. He is trying to find out why it was labeled, "The Most Endangered River". His tweets and photos of people and places along the way are fascinating, I think. It is very interesting to me to see his reactions to the weird water and land issues in this area. Looks like he is in the Firebaugh area today.

http://cnnuslive.cnn.com/Event/My_trip_down_the_most_endangered_river_in_America
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Jun 25, 2014 - 10:07am PT
That whole Slate series is EXCELLENT!
couchmaster

climber
Jun 28, 2014 - 05:04pm PT
http://www.mnn.com/your-home/at-home/blogs/san-francisco-wants-to-seduce-you-into-conserving-water-this-summer


short version: conserve.
HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Jun 28, 2014 - 05:18pm PT
Three hungry bucks 7:00 yesterday morning while walking my dog. All the grasses should be about the same color as where the bucks are. The same three (probably) were hiding in the shade of some trees next to my driveway Thursday noon. It's very unusual for them to be so close to us during the day.
HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Jun 28, 2014 - 05:57pm PT
Unfortunately out of season!
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