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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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The odds of a gun accident like this one are incredibly low but so are the odds of needing a gun to protect oneself on a trip to a rural WalMart.
Yeah I know. WalMart is a friggin' carnage. Almost as bad as Double Cross before the bolts went in. Would you do Double Cross without packing? Hidden Valley Campground is a pretty shady place if you know what I mean.
I feel like I'm beating a dead horse, but if her gun was cocked with a round in the chamber the chances of an accident - either the one that happened or another one - were not low. Something was almost certain to go wrong. If it wasn't cocked how did the two year old pull the trigger. Heck I've seen adults who have trouble with a 7 lb. trigger, of course they were weak pussies but never the less...
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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I don't have an issue with concealed carry, but I don't understand why some people bother to carry everywhere they go. Seems like more trouble than it's worth.
If you are carrying the correct gun for you in a well-designed holster, it is essentially no "trouble" at all. It's like carrying a cell phone, where you just have a habit of putting it on in the morning, and it's just there all the time without you even having to think about it.
Sure, it seems that some areas are more "likely" to be trouble than others, but I'm sure that the woman who got robbed at gunpoint in broad daylight across the street from our office in a "great" part of town didn't expect trouble there that day either. You can't project what's going to happen where, so since it's really no "trouble" to carry, it's also no "bother."
And, for me the key point is to have the citizenry send a more and more consistent message, just as the Colorado sheriffs would like to see sent: "Many of us are armed, you will not generally know who, so you need to really wonder about every violent crime you attempt to commit."
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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The real hypocrisy is you can't open or concealed carry a handgun in the Supreme Court.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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to say that a 2yr old couldn't pull a glock style trigger is silly.
keeping any style handgun in a purse is begging for an AD
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jonnyrig
climber
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200 lbs of meat in the freezer again this year.
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Ihateplastic
Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
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If only there had been someone there with a concealed carry permit. This woman's life might have been saved and the culprit taken care of!
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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Anti-gunners and their generalizations. LOL
But, if you're determined to equate a gun with a penis, I can enthusiastically say that at any given moment I don't expect to whip out and use my penis. But I'd rather have it through all those moments and not use it than to find a good use for it and not have it!
;-)
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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From Spider Robinson: "If a person who commits felonies is a felon, then God is an iron."
The year's young. The bar I've set, as high as it is, won't last. lol
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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The Armed Citizen:
A woman allegedly accidentally shot by her boyfriend during a New Year’s Eve celebration in Sacramento County has died of her injuries, according to Sacramento County sheriff’s officials.
At 12:06 a.m. Thursday the Sacramento County Sheriff’s Communications Center received several calls reporting that a woman in her 20s had been shot in the parking lot of an apartment complex in the 5700 block of Callie Lane.
Deputies responded to the apartment complex near Madison Avenue and Hackberry Lane where they found the woman. She was rushed to the hospital with a life-threatening injury. Sheriff’s officials announced Thursday evening that she had died. Her name has not been released.
Through the night, detectives investigated the incident, which sheriff’s department spokeswoman Sgt. Lisa Bowman described as a celebratory act that resulted in an accidental shooting of the young woman. http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/crime/article5292705.html
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Napoleon hated these!
Lewis and Clark loved theirs. it kept them fed.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
22 shot 42 caliber repeating rifle.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Healjye...Good point...The supreme court lives on a different planet than us pheasants...
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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The real hypocrisy is you can't open or concealed carry a handgun in the Supreme Court.
Really, hypocrisy? You can't carry one into the White House either. Or the chambers of Congress. In many places, my home county included, you can't carry anywhere. While I think that's wrong it doesn't affect my life, I wouldn't carry if I could. But I own and shoot guns. I keep my skill levels high, I enjoy practicing with several friends who are retired spec forces and we do tactical stuff.
So when you raise a red herring in your argument against guns you lose me. Not a valid point.
It is not my intention to start the New Year with heated arguments so please don't flame back at me, I enjoy reasonable conversation. Cheers.
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
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Even non Americans have arms, should they be allowed to bare them?
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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zBrown,
this country was built by armed immigrants with "issues" with their old homelands, and while you may not know this, more americans have german ancestry than any other nation. (I am one).
And there was one german guy who helped Washington win the war of independence.
OK, he was a poseur, but he still did the deed.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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He lied about his rank.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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The letter of recommendation from the French minister identified him as a Lt Gen.
The French?
He was Lt Gen of his local militia. Kind of like being a General in a US State Militia.
Captain in the Prussian army, aide decamp to the Emperor aren't qualifications to sneeze at, but the "magnificent fraud" angle does make for a better story. He wasn't faking what he was bringing to the table.
Not that he wasn't a player either. His claim that he was giving up great riches and position in Europe were false. He was broke and had bill collectors looking for him in Europe.
The "Magnificent Fraud" angle probably began to be played up in WW1 and continued into WWII to distance any German connection to the Revolution.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Facts About the AR-15
* The inventor of the AR-15 was Satan, though his patent has since expired.
* Scientists have confirmed the deadly effects of an AR-15 by giving it to a chimpanzee who then murdered them.
* Scientists agree that each year the AR-15 will grow more deadly until it kills everyone in the entire world.
* Some believe that Hitler was in fact an AR-15 in a rubber mask.
* In the Garden of Eden, God gave Adam and Eve access to every firearm out there except for the AR-15 which he told them not to touch because it was too evil. But then the NRA, in the guise of a serpent, told Eve that the AR-15 is really fun to shoot. So then Eve took the AR-15 and started shooting all the animals in the garden because she is one awesome chick.
* The part that makes the AR-15 so extra deadly is the handle on top. The AR-15 would be used in less murders if it were more inconvenient to carry.
* It was an AR-15 that told Miley Cyrus to dance like that.
* Bullets that are normally harmless will kill instantly when fired out of the AR-15.
* The reason AR-15s have that prominent handle on them is because the most requested feature for an assault rifle was to be able to carry it like a Hello Kitty lunch box.
* If you find yourself surrounded by AR-15's, know that they will fire automatically if they sense fear.
* The AR-15 is easily concealable and can fit inside a matchbox.
* The AR-15 is the leading cause of global warming from how its bullets shoot holes in the ozone.
* A very small percentage of gun deaths are attributed to the AR-15 because it is very good at disguising itself as other guns to frame them.
* What are the differences between an M16 and an AR-15? Scientists agree that it is something.
* The AR-15 can be rendered harmless by giving it only a 10 round magazine as people always miss with the first ten rounds and an AR-15 takes an hour and a half to reload.
* The AR-15 can shoot through schools.
* In a battle between Aquaman and an AR-15, Aquaman would break down and buy it so people might think he’s more manly.
* There were no shooting deaths until the invention of an AR-15. No one even considered using a gun to shoot another human being until someone saw an AR-15 and said, "I bet I could use this to kill a lot of people."
* There was an assault musket similar to the AR-15 used by the world’s most evil pirates, but it was pronounced "Arrr-15."
* The Assault Weapon ban was needed because it is well known that an AR-15 with both a pistol grip and a flash suppressor would be unstoppable by any modern military.
* In Europe there is no such thing as an AR-15 and thus also no such thing as murders. Instead of being violent, people there just drink wine and smoke cigarettes all day.
* If you are shot by an AR-15, you become one and kill others.
* The AR-15 is responsible for 95% of all deaths each year. The rest of the deaths are from obesity and drone strikes.
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