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Hawkeye

climber
State of Mine
Jun 15, 2016 - 08:10pm PT
yes, adjust our rights. gain and lose with modern times.
aspendougy

Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
Jun 15, 2016 - 08:37pm PT
Seeing as men perform a much larger portion of violent acts than women, I think we should make it illegal for men to possess guns, but only allow women to carry them. There would be fewer murders, much less rape, and fewer assaults.
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Jun 15, 2016 - 11:19pm PT
the idea that we could prohibit a person from buying a gun, which is in violation of our second amendment, is clearly in violation of our Constitution.

Bullsh#t. The second amendment is interpreted as it is because of the recent decision of an activist rightwing majority on the court.

The idea that buying, registering and insuring guns and licensing, testing and insuring gun owners should be any less restrictive than driving is the very definition of insanity.

That there are legitimate civilian uses for an AR-15 and similar weapons and high capacity magazines other than masturbatory gun fetishes is another exercise in [white male] delusion and insanity.

More delusion is the idea you'd stand against an errant U.S. government with your weapons - crikey, turn off the gas, water and close Safeway and McDonalds and you'd all fold on day four.

And - as a throw out to MB1 - there is absolutely no 'natural' or 'fundamental' right to the weapons of your choice and not even the Supreme Court recognizes any such right regardless of your philosophical and religious fantasies around the notion.
EdwardT

Trad climber
Retired
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 16, 2016 - 05:15am PT
Good news.

Senate Democrats ended a nearly 15-hour filibuster early Thursday after Republican Party leaders reportedly agreed to allow votes on two proposed gun control measures.

Sen. Chris Murphy, a Democrat from Connecticut, said that a compromise had been reached. Votes would be held on whether to ban people on the government's terrorist watch list from obtaining gun licenses and whether to expand background checks to gun shows and internet sales, he added.

survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Jun 16, 2016 - 05:21am PT
More guns. That's what we need!!

GUNS!!

GUNS!!

GUNS!!
Escopeta

Trad climber
Idaho
Jun 16, 2016 - 05:21am PT
Sweet! It sounds like Healjy is up for being on the gun confiscation task force. Finally a taker. Someone truly outraged by these dangerous guns. Ready for action!

You need some addresses Healyj or are you good?
Sierra Ledge Rat

Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
Jun 16, 2016 - 05:29am PT
...is the very definition of insanity...
1+

WTF has happened to America?

First the GOP was hijacked and torpedoed by a bunch of crazy religious fanatics.

Now the gun nuts are intentionally trying to destroy America from within.

I am no longer proud to be American, and sad that I served in uniform to protect all of this stupid crap.

A huge portion of Americans are stupid bat-shit crazy.
Escopeta

Trad climber
Idaho
Jun 16, 2016 - 05:43am PT

Better be careful with that talk SLR, that almost sounds like you want to denounce your citizenship. Which, you probably already know prohibits you from legally purchasing a weapon in the USA.
EdwardT

Trad climber
Retired
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 16, 2016 - 06:55am PT
Thanks Cragman. Reminded me of this video.

[Click to View YouTube Video]

Is Allen West's assessment accurate? I tend to think so.
Gary

Social climber
Where in the hell is Major Kong?
Jun 16, 2016 - 07:49am PT
More delusion is the idea you'd stand against an errant U.S. government with your weapons

It is delusion, because when the army coup does come the right wing and gun nuts will be on their side.
StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Jun 16, 2016 - 07:51am PT
NRA is a bunch of money grubbing fear mongers. They will do or say anything to sell more paranoia and death.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/nra%E2%80%99s-baseless-fbi-claim/ar-AAh6eeU?li=BBnb7Kz
zBrown

Ice climber
Jun 16, 2016 - 08:39am PT
Just take it on down to it's illogical conclusion

Free is free
Costs nothing to make radical Islam, free radical Islam
Sprinkle on some antioxidants
It's all over but the shouting

That's FCSI

Amen
the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Jun 16, 2016 - 09:02am PT
Like it or not in the USA we cherish freedom. And we have the second amendment. Personally I don't own or need an assault rifle, if someone gave me one I'd have fun shooting it, but I don't think we should ban them. We should have universal background checks and much more effort into keeping them out of the wrong hands though.

It's like cigarettes. Banning them would benefit me. I hate second hand smoke litter and high health costs but its a free country. People can do it if they want. But they should absorb the costs to society not me.

Guns will never be banned. And even if they were there's millions of them around we'd never get rid of.

We need to do a better job keeping them from the wrong people and the republicans and NRA are being idiots about that.
10b4me

Mountain climber
Retired
Jun 16, 2016 - 09:14am PT

Guns will never be banned.

The Fet, you are correct, kind of like illegal immigrants, they're not going away.
StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Jun 16, 2016 - 09:18am PT
I don't think we need to ban guns, but this is getting way out of hand. Even the inventor of the AR-15 said it was a military grade weapon and should not be in civilian hands.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/family-of-ar-15-inventor-he-didnt-intend-it-for-civilians/ar-AAh7hM9?li=BBnb7Kz

It just keeps escalating, with people trying to outdo each other on the level of killing power they possess. When did this turn into some kind of cult?
Escopeta

Trad climber
Idaho
Jun 16, 2016 - 09:26am PT
The consistent mistake made by most is a false delineation between "Civilians" and "Military". Here in good ole 'murica, while we still have a volunteer professional military combined with a citizen militia consisting of all other military age citizens.....there is no difference.
monolith

climber
state of being
Jun 16, 2016 - 09:28am PT
Yeah, that would make Mateem part of the militia, too.

He was entitled to full auto. His rights were trampled by libtards.

Freedom!
zBrown

Ice climber
Jun 16, 2016 - 09:43am PT
No longer of age, started getting them Social Security checks and Medicare it's time to turn in your machine gunz.

Except of course if you're Jimi.

He's dead? Sheeit.

[Click to View YouTube Video]
Escopeta

Trad climber
Idaho
Jun 16, 2016 - 09:51am PT
So was the Fort Hood shooter. But I'm sure your suggested restrictions would work this time.
monolith

climber
state of being
Jun 16, 2016 - 09:56am PT
Yep, that happens quite often, right Esco?

Lots more mass shootings go on outside the military.
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