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Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Dec 3, 2015 - 07:08pm PT
How do you measure the mass shootings that never happen, because some private citizen took the trouble to arm himself?

Like some guy who gets stomped and his ass beaten badly by 15 guys in a bar brawl ( dude asked for it, by trying to kill the bartender on a busy night ) and as he's being shown the door he screams "I'M GONNA GET MY GUN! I'M GONNA GET MY GUN!"

The bartender tells him "If I see you in here again, I'm going to blow your f*#king brains out" - he meant it, too. And the hellraiser understood.

Within a minute, the outside of the backdoor of the bar was hit by a pair of shotgun blasts, but the shooter knew better than to go back inside that bar, because he didn't want to get shot.

The bartender used his gun ( a Ruger P-85 9mm ) to stop a mass murder without shooting it, pointing it at anybody, or even drawing it.

Where on the stat sheet does an incident like that show? Happens all the time, all over the country. It's certainly not the type of thing that gets reported to the cops - the bartender just buys a couple rounds of drinks for everyone as thanks for helping out, and that's it.

7SacredPools

Trad climber
Ontario, Canada
Dec 3, 2015 - 07:15pm PT
Happens all the time, all over the country.

Ya, because all over your country crazy f*#ks are walking around with guns.
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Dec 3, 2015 - 07:16pm PT
"How do you measure the mass shootings that never happen, because some private citizen took the trouble to arm himself?"

I dunno...how do you know GWB kept us safe from another terrorist attack?
Norton

Social climber
Dec 3, 2015 - 07:18pm PT
because Jeb says so
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Dec 3, 2015 - 07:19pm PT
Over 3100 people have been killed by Islamic terrorists on u.s. soil alone since 9-10-2011. If you add the thousands of soldiers, diplomats, aid workers, etc etc. killed since then maybe you can begin to realize we are at war with these maniacs.

Norton

Social climber
Dec 3, 2015 - 07:23pm PT
who said we aren't at war with radical Islam, Rick?

are you just now figuring this out?
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Dec 3, 2015 - 07:32pm PT
Pulling a number and a date out of your ass isn't a citation, Rick.

Source? Link?
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Dec 3, 2015 - 07:33pm PT
Okay Norton you are making progress.

As for your white male christians. If you substitute dosed with pacifying drugs in school, obsessed with violent gaming, and prompted by the fame they see the media hyping on their predecessors you would probably be closer.

Alternately you could take your blinders off and look at the gang warfare rampant in the predominately Democrat run inner cities. Thousands upon thousands per year-makes your list of perps look anemic.

A matter of public record Apogee. Look it up yourself.
zBrown

Ice climber
Dec 3, 2015 - 07:39pm PT
So far, Mr. Truman's judicious [?] use of nuclear weapons has deterred all others from using them as any thing more than a threat.
-Dr. Strangelove(private communication)

Could a massive infusion of American 'Gee haw' into the mix deter some of these crazy bastards from their dastardly deeds? Any volunteers for some infiltration of the middle east with a tanker full of U.S.A. manufactured Sarin?

Sort of, what comes around, goes around, eh?





crankster

Trad climber
No. Tahoe
Dec 3, 2015 - 07:45pm PT
^
And rednecks have to spit out nonsense with their chew.

Sorry to insult Rush. I know he's popular in the State of Jefferson.
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Dec 3, 2015 - 07:52pm PT
You want solutions, how about this.

Close the borders down to the point even an illegal foreign mouse couldn't get in.

Close down immigration and visas from any problem foreign country. Accept only those that have education/skills in short supply here.

Law enforcement is spread to thin. Deputize returning vets and retiring law enforcement to guard targets of opportunity.

Reintroduce corporal punishment into the public schools

Outlaw violent gaming.

Fire the dem administration's responsible for their cities spiraling out of control.

Deport the america hating progressives along with other terrorists on the watchlist
crankster

Trad climber
No. Tahoe
Dec 3, 2015 - 07:54pm PT
When did you become radicalized? Your satirical "solutions", you don't mention them in public, I hope. I'm guessing you do, at your kind of campfire.
zBrown

Ice climber
Dec 3, 2015 - 07:57pm PT

Close down immigration and visas from any problem foreign country. Accept only those that have education/skills in short supply here.

Roll out the welcome mat to those with biochemical weapons experience.

Provide sarin possession permits to all gun owners (who fear for their lives).




johnboy

Trad climber
Can't get here from there
Dec 3, 2015 - 09:00pm PT
Well, if there is a high probability that the victims to be are armed it would give the wack jobs pause and probably short circuit their carnage.

Yet, the gun enthusiasts are afraid of a good refugee with a gun that could stop a bad guy with a gun.
Fence straddling being what it is and all.

The NRA and Texas looking into new antigun legislation.

Funny stuff right there, afraid of their own dreamed up fear. Ha!

rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
Dec 3, 2015 - 09:00pm PT
Rick Sumner...You forgot a couple ... Burkas mandatory for women , transgendered included , and any cleavage displays punishable by public flogging...
10b4me

Mountain climber
Retired Climber
Dec 3, 2015 - 09:11pm PT

You want solutions, how about this.

Close the borders down to the point even an illegal foreign mouse couldn't get in.

Close down immigration and visas from any problem foreign country. Accept only those that have education/skills in short supply here

+1
Gary

Social climber
Hell is empty and all the devils are here
Dec 3, 2015 - 09:13pm PT
How would that have stopped a guy from Illinois?
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Dec 3, 2015 - 09:13pm PT
Transgender burkas, yes. Would at least differentiate the freaks. Cover all cleavage, no that would be a crime.


TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Dec 3, 2015 - 09:14pm PT
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-san-bernardino-shooting-victims-htmlstory.html

All victims of a violent, pathological, misogynistic, genocidal ideology

The powers that be can not bring themselves to even name it.

That might offend someone.
Gary

Social climber
Hell is empty and all the devils are here
Dec 3, 2015 - 09:29pm PT
All victims of a violent, pathological, misogynistic, genocidal ideology

True, the NRA is a pretty despicable organization, and they have no regard for the havoc their policies are creating in this country, but I'm not sure they're misogynistic.

That might offend someone.

If Wayne LaPierre is offended, tough.
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