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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Oct 22, 2012 - 04:35pm PT
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Now that Lance is officially stripped of his tour wins , i have one more question...Why does hydrogen peroxide foam when poured onto a cut..?
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Vitaliy M.
Mountain climber
San Francisco
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Oct 22, 2012 - 04:38pm PT
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Does this mean I should return my 'livestrong' bracelet?
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atchafalaya
Boulder climber
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Oct 22, 2012 - 05:03pm PT
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I am still impressed that he kicked the other doped riders ass for seven years.
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Vitaliy M.
Mountain climber
San Francisco
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Oct 22, 2012 - 05:08pm PT
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And ask for money back so now not only does Lance f*#k over cycling we can see the effects of a witch hunt come full circle and screw everyone at all levels.
lol
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Oct 22, 2012 - 05:14pm PT
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So where are all them folks here that were all over Lance being innocent and completely clean?
I don't recall anyone here saying they thought LA rode clean. Maybe I missed a post or two, but my feeling is that most folks posting to this thread assumed that Armstrong, and virtually everyone he competed against, rode dirty.
The big questions in most posters' minds have been
a) What happens to the races that he won?
b) What happens to all the other cheaters?
It's great to have proof that he doped, but what next? If he's stripped of his wins because he doped, what becomes of everybody else's wins? Do they all get a pass? That is, you (and others) seemed to have a huge boner for Lance Armstrong, but now that he's busted, and your boner has subsided, do you just roll over and go to sleep?
And what happens going forward? The money and prestige will still be at stake, so why do you believe that busting this one guy will change everything? Maybe Wiggins rode clean this year, but do you seriously believe that if an undetectable drug becomes available tomorrow that half the peloton won't jump on it?
I don't have any answers, and don't particularly care, because my rides will be just as much fun whether a bunch of dudes in lycra are doping or not.
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
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Oct 22, 2012 - 05:42pm PT
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Didn't the Chief admit right here on this thread that he did doping himself?
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WBraun
climber
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Oct 22, 2012 - 05:58pm PT
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You guys are just spinning this in a way to get back at him (The Chief) because you don't like him.
Stupid ......
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Oct 22, 2012 - 06:02pm PT
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You guys are just spinning this in a way to get back at him (The Chief) because you don't like him.
Stupid ......
You're probably right Werner, but hey, The Chief was just spinning it his way because he doesn't like Lance Armstrong, so it's all just part of the eternal wheel of life.
Why are you spinning it your way?
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Oct 22, 2012 - 06:05pm PT
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Lance liked to spin also...He learned it from big mig and punished Ulrich on those long tour climbs...
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WBraun
climber
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Oct 22, 2012 - 06:09pm PT
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The whole Armstrong thing is because he swindled millions of dollars on untruths, strong arm tactics, and fuking people over for personal and monetary gains.
It's not about the bike race which is secondary.
The Chief will stand his ground.
You're all stupid trying to fight him.
Ya all know he's a military vet, a fighter, and not a pussy.
Ya think he's just gonna roll over by a some guys on the internet talking sh!t at him?
Ain't gonna happen with guys like him.
Tough sh!t guys ...... :-)
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Oct 22, 2012 - 07:31pm PT
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GO WERNER!!! If you don't defend a fellow didactic then who will?
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Gary
Social climber
Right outside of Delacroix
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Oct 22, 2012 - 08:01pm PT
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This is all a steaming crock of bullshít unless Eddy Merckx is stripped of his five Tour wins...
Exactly.
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Gary
Social climber
Right outside of Delacroix
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Oct 22, 2012 - 08:03pm PT
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^^^^Yeah, baby!
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mynameismud
climber
backseat
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Oct 22, 2012 - 10:18pm PT
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How many people did Lance save? Really? His foundation is for Cancer Awareness.
He gets money from his foundation and he got tax payer money from US Postal. How much of that money did he use to dope, to get other to dope and to intimidate and threaten those that were trying to stop doping.
I have no sympathy for Lance. He live by the sword and now...
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Mimi
climber
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Oct 22, 2012 - 10:25pm PT
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Werner, The Chief remains a fuktard no matter how you classify him. LOL!
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Roughster
Sport climber
Vacaville, CA
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Oct 22, 2012 - 10:35pm PT
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Simply put: He is the best ever. I only hope cycling will ever get someone who was as riveting and commanding to watch. Blank or not, seven titles will never be exceeded.
The determination and sheer power of will most likely will never be seen again in professional sports.
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Mimi
climber
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Oct 22, 2012 - 10:39pm PT
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Ditto to both of youse.
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zBrown
Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
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Oct 22, 2012 - 11:04pm PT
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Y'all gonna have to fill in the blanks, I crapped out about half way through. Just can't get into it. I am disappointed, but Lance Armstrong is no different from lotsa, lotsa folks.
Had he gone to arbitration, the entire lot would have gone public and his name would be shet.
By doing this, nothing becomes public that entails him.
By doing this, he saves face and saves all that testimony from folks the likes of Georgie and Levy (which most assuredly are on the list of characters to testify against him). That too may be a reason for throwing in the towel. To save them, his team mates, the agony of having to go public and tell the truth. In doing so, making the entire US Postal and Discovery Teams look like complete liars and cheat during all them years.
They came clean and faced the music.
Ali accepts lifetime ban from boxing for using the rope-a-dope.
If Lance didn't dope, hes the greatest cyclist EVER, because he beat all the others that doped like hell.
If Lance doped, hes still the greatest cyclist EVER, because everyone doped and he still beat them...
BTW, is LSD banned in cycling?
Armstrong is HUGE, he's a monster, bigger than anything around.
Good lawyers!
I fear unconstrained and overzealous law enforcement far more than I fear a single petty criminal.
Due process is a vital American principle that too many people don't comprehend.
Tom Head, Texas Judge: Obama Reelection Could Lead To 'Civil War and the Incarceration of Lance Armstrong,' I'm Ready To 'Take Up Arms'
Dealing with the USADA is almost the exact opposite. An accused athlete has about as much chance as a defendant before the Queen of Hearts. Off with his head, then let's have the trial.
What's chicken-sheeit in all this is that Armstrong played by the rules of the game and he won.
Did anybody watch these races on TV, wasn't that Armstrong peddling his ass off there, or was it someone else?
When all this is said and done, the books will be opened and many heads are going to roll. Some from the top down in the UCI and possibly in the WADA org.
If the goal is to "clean-up" the "sport", then why are so many admitted dopers granted immunity so that one guy gets nailed. This is no house cleaning, it's a sham.
LA is just another perfect example of the times.... arrogance of power, fame and money.
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Oct 22, 2012 - 11:31pm PT
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Everyone should read Landis's book.
Anyone who thinks a guy that rides a bike for a living is anything but a guy that rides a bike for a living is always going to end up disappointed.
Why is it every culture holds up sports figures as "heroes"? I've never understood why.
These guys train their asses off their entire lives. Then they're faced with the choice to dope and maybe... just maybe win... or not dope and have zero chance and just fade away. These races are still superhuman feats of endurance and pain regardless of what drugs they took or didn't take.
But at the end of the day, do I give a crap what Lance or any other sports person is sticking in their veins? Hell no!
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zBrown
Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
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Oct 22, 2012 - 11:42pm PT
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^I'd probably say yes. Coulda been geezing smack.
Doesn't make sense now that the original statement is gone.
Somebody will get it.
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