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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Yeah, good luck hitting anything that way, TGT. I had a black powder Remington, fun to shoot at night!
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Degaine
climber
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Ron Anderson wrote:
Saw a really lovely quote by the lunatic freak FIENSTIEN that " all vets are mentally ill in some way and government should prevent them from owning firearms.."
She never said that. She never came close to saying anything of the sort.
You just really don't like facts, do you?
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Good morning, Ron. Hope all's well. Did you find a citation for that Feinstein quote yet?
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Norton
Social climber
quitcherbellyachin
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Ron Anderson wrote:
Saw a really lovely quote by the lunatic freak FIENSTIEN that " all vets are mentally ill in some way and government should prevent them from owning firearms.."
LIAR
YOU are the LIAR, Ron Anderson
why not start a new thread quoting all the LIES you have told on this forum?
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couchmaster
climber
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Senator Dianne Feinstein opposed an amendment to her so-called assault weapons ban legislation that would allow veterans to continue buying firearms the bill would outlaw. Retired police would have been exempt but not veterans.
What she actually said was:
"SEN. DIANNE FEINSTEIN: If I understand this, this adds an exemption of retired military. As I understand our bill, no issue has arose in this regard during the 10 years the expired ban was in effect and what we did in the other bill was exempt possession by the United States or a department or agency of the United States. So that included active military.
The problem with expanding this is that, you know, with the advent of PTSD, which I think is a new phenomenon as a product of the Iraq War, it’s not clear how the seller or transferrer of a firearm covered by this bill would verify that an individual was a member, or a veteran, and that there was no impairment of that individual with respect to having a weapon like this.
So, you know, I would be happy to sit down with you again and see if we could work something out but I think we have to-- if you’re going to do this, find a way that veterans who are incapacitated for one reason or another mentally don’t have access to this kind of weapon.
Video here:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/03/08/feinstein_veterans_may_have_ptsd_and_should_not_be_exempt_from_assault_weapons_ban.html
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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"why not start a new thread quoting all the LIES you have told on this forum?"
Because that would make the 306th pos thread he's started, further cementing his pathetic need for attention, while distracting from ST's primary purpose.
Naaahhh...ban him for lifetime...let him go poison another forum somewhere. Its best for everyone.
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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The thing I find bizarre about Feinstein's remarks is this:
with the advent of PTSD, which I think is a new phenomenon as a product of the Iraq War
PTSD is a byproduct of warfighting. Before Vietnam they called it shell shock and said man up. Tell a Vietnam Vet that PTSD is a new phenomenon of the Iraq War, you'll get a mouth full.
I had an experience with PTSD. TMI to get into here. It was caused by a single gruesome incident, so two hours of quality time with a specialist sorted it out. But my heart goes out to those soldiers who come home with layers upon layers of horrific experiences all tangled into some web of emotional hell.
Just saying that if she's going to talk about it she should be better informed.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Who's hating? We're having a discussion.
And, yes, Kris, that was the one thing Feinstein should be criticized for, something she actually said, not something someone wished she had said.
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johnboy
Trad climber
Can't get here from there
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I've never meet a veteran that went into or came out of the service that wanted special considerations for themselves, all they want is to be treated like anyone else. Lets let the experts decide if anyone is too mentally unstable to possess a gun.
Ive heard those that defend the rights to guns scream as loud as anyone that any mentally ill people that have committed illegal acts with a gun shouldn't of had a gun to start with.
Now it's sounding like they want to amend their previous positions.
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johnboy
Trad climber
Can't get here from there
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Who twisted what words of yours?
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Yeah, Ron, when have I twisted your words?
As for Feinstein's quote, I'm glad you admit it was false. I was starting to get worried about you. :-)
And you should know better than to believe ANYTHING that comes in your email!
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Ron as tragic victim.
Attention seekers will take it any way they can get it.
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pud
climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
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The Kalashnikov factory built Saiga IZ132 chambered in 7.62x39 mm is a durable, utility type weapon.
Pictured above with the Tapco forend, Bushnell red dot site, Bipod and cheek rest, the AK upper allows reliability and accuracy in a low maintenance platform.
Obama outlawed the importation of all Kalashnikov weapons last summer so your only chance to acquire one of these fine weapons is through private party transfer at you local FFL dealer.
AR 15's may be slightly more accurate over 100 yards but the Saiga will take a beating and continue to deliver reliably. Ammo is roughly half the price of .223 making it an economical choice as well.
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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The thing I find bizarre about Feinstein's remarks is this:
with the advent of PTSD, which I think is a new phenomenon as a product of the Iraq War
PTSD is a byproduct of warfighting. Before Vietnam they called it shell shock and said man up. Tell a Vietnam Vet that PTSD is a new phenomenon of the Iraq War, you'll get a mouth full.
I had an experience with PTSD. TMI to get into here. It was caused by a single gruesome incident, so two hours of quality time with a specialist sorted it out. But my heart goes out to those soldiers who come home with layers upon layers of horrific experiences all tangled into some web of emotional hell.
Just saying that if she's going to talk about it she should be better informed.
Actually PTSD is caused by a lot more than war. Senator Feinstein is senile and retarded. I often wondered if the offspring of Feinstein and Bush would produce a Black Hole sucking all knowledge and reality into it.
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pud
climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
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Ron,
The Bushnell makes tight groups @ 100 yards relatively easy.
It costs almost as much as the $450.00 retail of the stock weapon itself.
That is, before Obama doubled the value in his ongoing feud with Vladimir.
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crankster
Trad climber
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Dec 11, 2014 - 05:49pm PT
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You can't make this up...
ByDANIEL STRAUSSPublishedDECEMBER 11, 2014
A woman charged with shooting and killing her ex-husband and stepdaughter has strong connections to groups advocating for expanding open carry gun laws in Texas.
Local news outlets on Wednesday reported that Veronica Dunnachie was arrested and charged with shooting and killing her ex-husband and step daughter.
Buried in some of the initial reporting on the arrest of Dunnachie seems to have been an active participant in open carry groups in Texas. The local ABC affiliate, WFAA, noted that Dunnachie's Facebook page is photos of her engaged in open carry firearm advocacy activities. WFAA also noted that one of her profile pictures included the text "Sometimes removing some people out of your life makes room for better people."
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Dec 11, 2014 - 09:42pm PT
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Nice Ron, with a little bit of work 10/22's are one of my favorite to teach people long range rifle work with. Most have no idea .22LR match ammo can hit tennis balls all day long at 100 yards and most of the day in perfect conditions at 200...
200 is more like archery. :)
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