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TradEddie
Trad climber
Philadelphia, PA
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3 Step Process:
1. Edit the Constitution to legalize gun control
2. Prohibit the private sale or exchange of any firearm.
3.Wait till legal firearm owners die and assess a 100% death tax on all firearms in the estate.
DMT
Step one is not necessary. The Supreme Court ruled decades ago that the Federal Government's authority to levy taxes is valid even if that tax affects an activity that the government has no constitutional authority to regulate. I brought it up before and Madbolter nearly exploded.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Yep, paranoia fueled gun purchases give the NRA a wicked stiffy. Not a good sign for a supposedly civilized society however.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Reilly: How you gonna go about disarming 200 million people?
Slowly. You'll have to wait a long time for most of the pieces to just rust away, unfortunately. But you got to start somewhere, even if it takes a century to have any effect.
Kris: Gun control is already legal. Except for criminals and madmen.
That's the problem. Criminals and madmen have ready access to weapons. In large part due to the NRA attacking any reasonable attempt at gun control.
Bulletproof whiteboards? Really?
Ron: OK ill ask ya Gary,, how exactly have you been threatened by any legally armed citizen in your life?
Yeah, at one of those rest area plazas on the east coast toll roads, which suck big time BTW (yay freeways!), one of those open carry as#@&%es was strutting around with a piece. I got the f*#k outta there.
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crankster
Trad climber
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The NRA are the Merchants of Death.
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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LOL... you guys are too much... NRA="merchants of death"....
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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The Chief, have some reading comprehension problems, do you? Cerro Coso Community College has an Introduction to Philosophy Class. Those intro courses usually have a discussion of logic at some point. Might do you some good, amigo.
PHIL Philosophy
This course introduces philosophical ideas and methods concerning knowledge, reality and values. Topics of instruction include the sources and limits of knowledge, and the nature of reality. The course also covers the philosophical perspective of the nature of the self, truth, ethics, religion, science, language, beauty and art, political theory, and mind. Advisory: ENGL C070.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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The Chief wrote:
These are the Gov't Agencies that Gary so willing allows to confiscate your once legal weapons that will be mandated to be taken away if Gary, Crankstar and all the other anti-gun loons have their way.
Like I said, the Chief, you have some reading comprehension problems. Could you please quote the post where I stated guns should be confiscated by the government. Thanks!
I'm serious about the philosophy class.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Gary, well kept guns don't rust, but your faith is admirable. I love it
when I see the Sheriff on the telly bragging about taking "guns off the
streets" when they have those lame $100 Target gift cards for guns turned
in campaigns. Not a one of those guns turned in has ever been on the street.
What self-respecting hoodlum packs a single shot bolt action 22?
LOL!
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Reilly, my plan counts on criminals and the mentally deranged to not have weapons maintenance as one of their top priorities.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Ron, you made the assertion. It's on you to prove she said "all veterans are mentally ill." I don't see that anywhere. I'm no fan of Diane Feinstein, but I do believe we should try to base our judgements on truth as much as we possible can.
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pud
climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
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The M&P Smith and Wesson BG380 is a fine weapon with nearly the punch of a 9mm in a compact size.
Under 1 lb fully loaded, it has substantial recoil but fits nicely enough into your palm to make it reasonable.
I didn't like the long stroke trigger pull so I installed a Galloway Precision http://gallowayprecision.com/smith-and-wesson/bodyguard-380/ trigger kit and am pleased with the %30 reduction in trigger pull.
I got the laser edition and was surprised at how accurate it is right out of the box.
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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...to acquire all the million/s of illegal guns in America?
Here's the problem. Acquiring the illegal guns is virtually impossible. The only way to get them is one at a time when they are used in the commission of a crime (if the criminal is apprehended with a gun.) Of course he's probably got five more waiting at home for when he gets out. So logically the way to stop gun crime is to lock up anyone who uses a gun in a crime and throw away the key.
However acquiring the legal guns is easy. Law abiding gun owners have their guns registered, stored under lock and key, transport to and from ranges etc. in a legal manner and don't commit crimes with them.
Taking the guns away from the folks who don't commit crimes with them while knowing full well that the criminals will be well armed is about as smart as invading a large Middle Eastern Nation to punish them for something they had nothing to do with.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Here's the problem. Acquiring the illegal guns is virtually impossible.
Agreed. That's why we just stop selling most forms of weaponry and wait for the present ones to become inoperable.
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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I'm going to get a good crossbow. Very Accurate. Very powerful. Very quiet. Very intimidating.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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That's why we just stop selling most forms of weaponry and wait for the present ones to become inoperable.
You can go out and buy an operable Civil War gun that was made with vastly
inferior metal to today's guns and has not been properly maintained lo these
many years. Any modern gun which is even moderately well maintained will
last much longer. The human race will be gone before today's guns 'rust away'.
And don't even think you're gonna cut off the supply of ammo. By the time
the highly unlikely happens and ammo is banned in this country the stockpiles
will certainly last until the ultimate pandemic occurs. Wouldn't it be more
cost effective to get some proper mental health care going in this country
and put anybody who commits a felony with a gun away for life?
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TradEddie
Trad climber
Philadelphia, PA
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Here's the problem. Acquiring the illegal guns is virtually impossible. The only way to get them is one at a time when they are used in the commission of a crime (if the criminal is apprehended with a gun.) Of course he's probably got five more waiting at home for when he gets out.
Not at all impossible. Multiple studies show that 30-50% of "crime guns" were diverted from legitimate trade less than five years prior to recovery. Start by cutting off the supply and within five years there would be significant improvement. Universal background checks, tighter restrictions on dealers, better record keeping and tougher penalties for non-compliance by private individuals or dealers. Even a 5% reduction in availability of "crime guns" is thousands less shootings each year. Less shootings means less legitimate demand, which means less law-abiding citizens shooting their spouses and kids or going postal.
The only difficult part is that such legislation would reduce wholesale gun sales, and therefore is vehemently opposed by the Gun Industry.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Kris: I'm going to get a good crossbow. Very Accurate. Very powerful. Very quiet. Very intimidating.
And very slow to repeat.
Reilly:You can go out and buy an operable Civil War gun that was made with vastly
inferior metal to today's guns and has not been properly maintained lo these
many years.
That's cool. When some pissed off goth teenager walks into the school cafeteria and gets off a shot, how long to reload? Can he reload before all the jocks start pummeling him?
Any modern gun which is even moderately well maintained will
last much longer. The human race will be gone before today's guns 'rust away'.
And don't even think you're gonna cut off the supply of ammo. By the time
the highly unlikely happens and ammo is banned in this country the stockpiles
will certainly last until the ultimate pandemic occurs.
Good points. Like I said, it's a long term solution, gotta start somewhere? What's the alternative?
Wouldn't it be more
cost effective to get some proper mental health care going in this country
and put anybody who commits a felony with a gun away for life?
Proper mental health care would be great. Unfortunately, our spending priority currently is spending billions to blow up goatherds in the middle-east. Life terms for armed robbery would constitutionally cruel and unusual punishment.
DMT: you see Gary there is nohting you can do to pry those weapons out of the hands of god fearing Merkins. Nothing.
The way things are going that'll change if the NRA doesn't get on board with some reforms. But, some men you just can't reach. From one extreme to another...
Hey, Ron, did you come up with a citation for that Feinstein quote yet? Or is what you wish she said more important than what she did say?
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