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Contractor
Boulder climber
CA
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Most of these guys are on a self imposed hiatus aside from the occasional juvenile drive-by. Deep down their psyches are wounded; they've been shamed by their Nero hero.
They'll become reinvigorated and back in force when Pelosi begins to assert herself and a strong and confident woman candidate emerges as a frontrunner. Without a woman in a pantsuit to loathe, they're lost in the woods.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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I haven't seen 'Vice' yet, but I've been looking forward to it- Christian Bale is supposed to be especially great in his role, and I always enjoy watching Amy Adams (sigh).
I'll try to watch it objectively, but that reviewer's perspective will be in my mind- and I'm sure there's some basis for it. Overall, the Bush-Cheney years were extremely negative years for the country- I'm certainly biased, so it's difficult to come up with a significant list of positive outcomes during that time (feel free to school me) that balanced or outweighed the negative impacts.
At this point, though, I'm sure there were far more nuanced dynamics going on that didn't come out in any media source, esp. the ones I was primarily attuned to at that time. Nowadays, I lean towards a slightly more attenuated view of those years, especially in the context of the current administration.
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WBraun
climber
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When are you gonna go to DC and fix this sh!t instead of babbling all day?
Answer: you couldn't fix yourselves out of a paper bag ....
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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This just in,literally
I fix sh#t all the time,including now.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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I'll be very disappointed if or when the liberal wing proposes to pile debt on my children in pursuit of their agenda
Christ on a bicycle, dude, what did the GOP just do with their tax cut for billionaires?
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Sorry, Werner...was too busy today pimpin' out my new workout room...
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Contractor
Boulder climber
CA
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Christ on a bicycle, dude, what did the GOP just do with their tax cut for billionaires? Exactly- they did just that! So raise taxes on the wealthy, cut corporate welfare, cut the fuk out of the military, achieve affordable healthcare by way of Government price control and embark on a robust infrastructure program- all for it.
However, the most progressive wing will attempt to pile on too much too fast as usual and discount the positives of a responsibly free market. My heart occupies the same space as the progressive wing but as a business owner I know what the affects will be when they overreach.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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I hear you Contractor. It’s a fine line to draw ,I believe we have to push way left to get even near Center at this point.
I have run a business since 82 ,so I am fiscally aware as well.
That said , nothing will happen soon enough.
IMHO.
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Happiegrrrl2
Trad climber
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This isn't news, but I think some find it funny.
How crooked is Trump?
So crooked that if he ate a nail, he's $%*t a screw.
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Norton
climber
The Wastelands
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Christ on a bicycle, dude, what did the GOP just do with their tax cut for billionaires?
they added two Trillion dollars to the national debt in a year and half
the most in US history
tell me why exactly Warren Buffet and Bill Gates should get a gift from "our children"
of hundreds of millions of dollars when they are both worth over 70 billion dollars.....
cut taxes for the already rich and then raise spending, the Republican fiscal policy
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Anybody here seen any benefits from that tax bill?
Yet it will be a central part of Trump's 2020 campaign- proof that he cut taxes, just like a good Republican.
That, along with the huge appointment of conservative judges, and the wall...these will be the central themes of his campaign. (Along with some self-created crisis to inspire fear, and anti-Pelosi rhetoric.)
And all the good little Republicans will once again check the box....
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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This just in....
White House asks Congress for $5.7 billion for 'steel barrier'
President Donald Trump backs down from insisting on a concrete border wall, while again saying he may declare ‘a national emergency.’
By MARIANNE LEVINE and QUINT FORGEY 01/06/2019 10:35 AM EST Updated 01/06/2019 07:49 PM EST
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/06/trump-emergency-border-wall-government-shutdown-1082712
The White House on Sunday officially asked Congress for $5.7 billion to build a “steel barrier,” confirming that President Donald Trump was backing down from his call for a concrete wall along the U.S.-Mexico border.
The request, made against the backdrop of a partial government shutdown that has entered its third week, comes as Trump is also considering whether to go around Congress and declare a national emergency in order to construct his proposed wall.
Odd, though...no mention of making Mexico pay for it...
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sempervirens
climber
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Exactly- they did just that! So raise taxes on the wealthy, cut corporate welfare, cut the fuk out of the military, achieve affordable healthcare by way of Government price control and embark on a robust infrastructure program- all for it.
Can we add:
Constitutional Amendment to nullify the Citizens United decision
Enforce Anti-Trust Laws
Public Funding of Campaigns
Ranked Choice Voting
Conservatives will likely dismiss these as socialist to avoid any real discussion.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Pie in the sky , I will tell you.
Whatever you or anybody would like that would benefit the majority of folks will be shot down as not helping the minority of folks.
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sempervirens
climber
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Wilbeer, I tend to agree but still won't give up.
The so-called culture war helps allow national politicians get away with serving the few. Any phony democrat progressive can blame lack of progress on the repubs and still serve their lobbyist donors. Repub politicians trot out the communist scare and their voters dance to that tune. Meanwhile progressive voters take the bait and often jump to defend what they believe to be liberal or progressive. That pushes the conservatives even further right when fox news puts some frothing nut job so-called liberal on the show spouting out about "free everything".
The highest paid lobbyists must be laughing their asses off.
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Lituya
Mountain climber
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Can we add:
Constitutional Amendment to nullify the Citizens United decision
Enforce Anti-Trust Laws
Public Funding of Campaigns
Ranked Choice Voting
--Will the amendment also apply to public-sector union electioneering?
--100% agree.
--Not gonna happen. People have the right to contribute to the candidate of their choice. Slippery slope when you start making citizens contribute to candidates they don;t support--or allow elites to "decide" who gets to run.
--Well intended, but in here in WA--and in CA--it's turning into a recipe for one-party rule.
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Lituya
Mountain climber
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cut taxes for the already rich and then raise spending, the Republican fiscal policy
Raise taxes 1.5x on the top 50%, then raise spending 4x.(To cover pay increases, benefits, and pensions for the bureaucratic class.) The Democrat fiscal policy.
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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It's always entertaining when all the aggro-hater-crazies show up.
Keep up the good work, tards.
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Lituya summarizes his most recent spew with:
--Well intended, but in here in WA--and in CA--it's turning into a recipe for one-party rule.
And, of course that would be the wrong party for Lituya to enjoy it having "one-party rule."
Poor, poor, scared Lituya. Donald's got him all upset about them terrorists coming over the Mexican border.
Fox News host Chris Wallace differed with Sarah Sanders this weekend, when she repeated administration lies about terrorists coming across the Mexican border.
According to statistics from the Department of Justice and the Department of Homeland Security, 2,554 people on the FBI's terrorist screening list were stopped trying to enter the U.S. in fiscal year 2017, the most recent year for which data is available. The majority — 2,170 — were attempting to enter through airports, and 49 were attempting to enter by sea.
The report found 335 were attempting to enter by land. The State Department said in September it had no indication that any terrorists had tried entering the U.S. through Mexico.
"At year's end there was no credible evidence indicating that international terrorist groups have established bases in Mexico, worked with Mexican drug cartels, or sent operatives via Mexico into the United States," the State Department report said. "Terrorist groups likely seek other means of trying to enter the United States."
The claim that the southern border is vulnerable to terrorists has been repeated by top Trump officials for months. Vice President Mike Pence told the Washington Post in October the U.S. apprehended more than 10 terrorists or suspected terrorists per day at the southern border in the last fiscal year.
And President Trump repeated the claim of a terrorist threat in a Rose Garden press conference Friday.
"The border is a much more dangerous problem. It's a problem of national security. It's a problem of terrorists," Mr. Trump said. "They find it's the easiest place to come through. They drive right in and make a left. It's not going to happen."
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Lituya
Mountain climber
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Fritzie, please, you need to put that gun down and go glue the peeling T1-11 back onto the side of your pretend rancho casa!
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