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neebee
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calif/texas
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hey there say, ... awwww, yes, ... my jake books...
please read them, :)
i hope you will be very glad that you did...
:)
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Dickbob
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Westminster Colorado
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Come on! Every one of you should have read a Neebee book by now. She has written a ton of them. Do it. Like I said, It is for a good cause.
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Mike Honcho
Trad climber
Golden, CO
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Just finished The Teddy Roosevelt Trilogy from Edmund Morris. Just started Alexander Hamilton from Ron Chernow. History, always history!
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Bryan, too bad you didn't like The Tempest. One of my favorite Shakespeare plays, and definitely my favorite of his romances (or later plays). If you ever get to see a well staged production of it--shipwrecks, Ariel flying around the stage, Caliban-- it is magical. Shakespeare really is meant (and was intended) to be seen rather than read. No offense intended, but maybe you're a little too young to appreciate Prospero looking back at his life, tolerating a suitor for his daughter, betrayal by his brother, etc. I'm tempted to start rereading it right now, but then I'd never finish The Omnivore's Dilemma, which I'm enjoying right now.
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perswig
climber
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Mar 22, 2017 - 03:26pm PT
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Weight, Jeanette Winterson.
Part of a series by various authors revisiting mythical tales.
With Lighthousekeeping, an accessible intro to her writing. I like her mix of earthy and out-there, and her cadence throughout.
Dale
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Byran
climber
Half Dome Village
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Mar 28, 2017 - 07:44pm PT
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I just finished reading When the Sleeper Wakes (1899) by H.G. Wells. It's a fairly quick read about a man who falls into a coma, is kept alive for 200 years without aging, and then wakes up in the future. I've read about ten books by Wells, and I consider him one of my favorite authors. That said, "When the Sleeper Wakes" is one of my least favorite of his novels that I've read so far. It's really a mixed bag, some elements I really like, other things really fall flat.
It's strongest aspect (and this is true of most of Wells' fiction) is the world it takes place in. It is a well crafted future that holds a lot of promise for an engaging narrative. Most authors when envisioning the future tend to fall into a cliche of either making their world a utopia or dystopia. The world the Sleeper wakes to is neither extreme. Rather it's an embellishment of all the trends Wells saw taking place in the 19th century. There are wondrous innovations in transportation, engineering, architecture, communication, medicine and science. You can tell Wells put a lot of care and thought into designing the various machines and devices which exist in this future, and you get a sense of his astonishment at all the incredible advancements in technology that were happening in his time. On the other hand, many negative developments of the 19th century are also still present and amplified: class inequality, political strife and civil unrest, proliferation of propaganda by the state, and ever more destructive weapons of war. This all makes for a diverse world that feels alive while allowing for much social commentary.
Where the novel comes up short is pretty much everywhere else. The starting premise for the story is good, but the sequence of events once it gets going quickly becomes predictable and the plot never really goes anywhere. The characters are lacking in any charisma or personality (and this is my main gripe with most of Wells' fiction) The good guys aren't likable and the bad guys aren't despicable, so it's hard to get invested in the drama. The ending doesn't drive home any of the moral or philosophical threads which the story had been cultivating, and instead brushes any sort of nuance aside in favor of a grandiose action scene and then ends very abruptly. Basically the novel has a good set-up but just doesn't follow through. Also a lot of the conflict towards the end centers around a privately contracted "negro army" which is brought in from Africa to squash the rebellious working peoples of London. Most modern audiences will probably find this a just a little bit racist, although I think Wells was aiming more at irony given the British Empire's sordid history of doing the exact same thing in reverse.
Here's a couple short passages that I liked
It seemed to him the most amazing thing of all that in his thirty years of life he had never tried to shape a picture of these coming times. “We were making the future,” he said, “and hardly any of us troubled to think what future we were making. And here it is!”
And some very prescient remarks on the course of democracy and formation of political parties.
But the Parliament — the organ of the land-holding tenant-ruling gentry — did not keep its power long. The change had already come in the nineteenth century. The franchises had been broadened until it included masses of ignorant men, ‘urban myriads,’ who went in their featureless thousands to vote together. And the natural consequence of a swarming constituency is the rule of the party organisation. Power was passing even in the Victorian time to the party machinery, secret, complex, and corrupt. Very speedily power was in the hands of great men of business who financed the machines. A time came when the real power and interest of the Empire rested visibly between the two party councils, ruling by newspapers and electoral organisations—two small groups of rich and able men, working at first in opposition, then presently together.
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Byran
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Half Dome Village
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Mar 28, 2017 - 07:51pm PT
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re: Fat Dad, yeah I think I'd probably like Shakespeare more in performance than in writing. I've seen pitifully few stage productions in my life, but generally liked them even if I wasn't engaged by the story.
edited to add: And on that same note, I think When the Sleeper Wakes would actually be perfect for a film adaptation for many reasons. First, the story has untapped potential and could be greatly improved by a talented screenwriter. Also you wouldn't have the pressure of taking a beloved classic and inevitably making a film which fails to live up to it. Additionally, the book paints a visually stunning world of towering skyscrapers and winding walkways crowded with people and this would translate well to a visual medium. And of course the book is also filled with big action scenes, chases, battles, and aerial dogfights which are a little bit tedious to read but would make for a good Hollywood action flick.
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Tobia
Social climber
Denial
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 6, 2017 - 06:28am PT
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Someone up thread mentioned Six Frigates by Ian Toll. i just wrapped it up. A fine account of the original U.S. Fleet and a telling story of U.S. politics during the 2nd & 3rd presidencies and Congress during those times. (nothing changes).
i also read David Halberstam's The Powers That Be, the story of CBS radio and television news division, the Washington Post and the L.A. Times. As usual Halbertsam is thorough in his research. Although published in 1975 (pre internet) the book reveals how manipulating the "news" business is.
i just started his Breaks of the Game concerning the Portland Trailblazers and their 1977 championship.
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Nick Danger
Ice climber
Arvada, CO
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Tobia, Ian Toll totally rocks as both a historian and as a writer. I have read "Pacific Crucible" and "Conquering Tide" about the Pacific campaign in WW II and I highly recommend both for folks who enjoy that sort of thing. Just finished Hornfishers' newest effort "The Fleet at Floodtide" and it is very good as well. Both authors are first rate historians and both are fabulous wordsmiths as well. I often caught myself rereading a passage just because I loved the writing style so much.
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Batrock
Trad climber
Burbank
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The Screwtape Letters by CS Lewis
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Tobia
Social climber
Denial
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 5, 2017 - 07:22am PT
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I put down Breaks of the Game about a ˝ way through it, I just couldn't get into it.
I followed Nick's lead and read the next two Ian Toll books. It was hard to put them down.
I followed that with Wooden World by N.A.M. Rodgers, which I started 5 or 6 years back. It dispels a lot of myth of what it life in the British Navy during the French and Indian Wars was like. Mighty Hiker mentioned it on a thread about whaling.
When searching the forum to see if I had posted anything about the book I discovered a "book thread" started by yosguns (The last book you read, December 2007), which is where I found my initial post about Wooden World. The last post on her thread was August 2011, which is about the same time D. Thompson started his thread. You never know what you will turn up in a ST forum search.
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
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Eruption. About Mt Saint Helens. Very good read.
Susan
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hootowl
Mountain climber
VA
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The Jersey Brothers by Sally Mott Freeman--the author is a friend of mine but that's not the only reason I love this book. She did 10 yrs of research to discover what happened to one of her uncles who was a POW in the Phillipines for most of WWII. Her father, as a very young naval officer, ran FDR's map room, and her other uncle was a gunnery officer on the USS Enterprise. This true story is gripping, heartbreaking, and as hard to put down as a good thriller. It's available on Audible and Kindle, but the hardcover edition gives you maps, photographs and end notes documenting all the diaries, letters, and Red Cross records she was able to track down. Amazing work, amazing story.
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Largo
Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
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The White Tower, by James Ramsey Ulman (gotta love the three names, something unfashionable - and long considered garish and vain - in 'Merica), published in 1945. Had the pleasure of getting a guided tour through the AAC library in Golden, Co., on Saturday, and bought this beauty for three dollah, thirty-three cents.
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guido
Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
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"A Problem from Hell-America and the Age of Genocide" by Samantha Powers
Pulitzer Prize 2002.
Superb!
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Tobia
Social climber
Denial
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 3, 2017 - 05:54am PT
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I just finished River Of Doubt by Candice Millard, a well written account of the first passage down the 1,000 mile river that flows northward in the Brazillian Amazon Basin led by T. Roosevelt and Cândido Rondon in 1913–14. The river is now known as the Rio Roosevelt. The descriptions of the plant and animal life in the rain forest and river are fascinating, as well as the hardships endured by the ex-president, Rondon and the rest of the team.
Prior to that I read The War Below by James Scott (WW II submarine warfare in the Pacific) & A Dawn Like Thunder by Robert J. Mrazek (an account of Torpedo Squadron Eight from its inception to decommissioning).
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
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American Pastoral
Susan
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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The Marvelous Land of Oz L Frank Baum
The second oz book. Written in a different style than today, fascinating
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Urizen
Ice climber
Berkeley, CA
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The Tenant of Wildfell Hall. Is there anyone more amazing than the Bronte sisters?
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