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Jim Clipper

climber
from: forests to tree farms
Apr 20, 2014 - 03:50am PT
http://greywateraction.org/content/requirements-no-permit-systems-california

Anyone wanna help pull up some lawn tomorrow? There are some other plants that should come up too, need to mulch the new fruit trees, break come flagstone, etc. Have been known to pay a living wage..
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Apr 20, 2014 - 10:55am PT
Thanks for the grey water link. I've been known to put in an honest day's work for pay... although I could only do it Tues and it would have to be fairly close to Sac.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Apr 20, 2014 - 11:33am PT
Mr Milktoast writes:

"The much huffed 'wet april' is a dud."



That's OK. Summer's coming. Summer's our new rainy season.
Jim Clipper

climber
from: forests to tree farms
Apr 20, 2014 - 01:17pm PT
Thanks Wes. Unfortunately, work is in Santa Cruz. Anyone got any links or experience with cisterns? What about a septic tank? It seems like a couple of rain barrels won't really cut it in the long run.

Also, we may be re-modeling. Since the roof, gutters, and french drain, (which currently pumps to the curb), will be replaced, I wonder if we can get a cistern going.

Got a lead on a hand pump? I never could mantle, if i cut the handle in half ... gotta work, good day all
Ricky D

Trad climber
Sierra Westside
Apr 24, 2014 - 06:42pm PT
Pee in the Aquaduct - that will show them in LA when their lawn turns yellow - they'll blame the dog and June Lakers will be scott free hee hee!

klk

Trad climber
cali
Apr 24, 2014 - 07:00pm PT
no cali politician is going to touch groundwater regulation.

yer an idiot. fran pavley is introducing a groundwater reg bill. pretty much a sign of the apocalypse.

http://blogs.kqed.org/science/2014/04/22/california-edging-closer-to-regulating-groundwater-for-the-first-time/

http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml;jsessionid=ea486a97d84365f59b5baefd0f56?bill_id=201320140SB1168
nita

Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
Apr 26, 2014 - 11:31am PT
Yesterday in Chico..it rained holy buckets ...Every little bit of precip helps.
Looking purdy in Yosemite.
Lassen looking good too...
John M

climber
Apr 26, 2014 - 01:33pm PT
this is going to help the flowers go off in May..

we got about an 1.25 inches also plus it snow a couple of inches..
MattB

Trad climber
Tucson
Apr 26, 2014 - 05:16pm PT
Nice little storm. Probably will feed more fuel growth, big fires coming. Nice flowers for sure.

Dams are still low, no? The snow will mostly sublimate in the next few weeks, ground will stay dry, I fear. Never dry wells still dry.

Matt via redding,ca
John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
May 1, 2014 - 07:15pm PT
Six Inches of pouring rain last night and nothing leaked.
klk

Trad climber
cali
May 2, 2014 - 11:33am PT
tx dmt

here's the actual report-- it dramatically understates the problem. for a start, we do no monitoring and have no data for most of the basins in the state. we have some data for only 1/3 of the highest pumping basins in the state. and this report, remarkably, does not even attempt to survey rates of well permitting and drilling, which by most accounts have surged in the last few years. that's why many of the pretty maps have weird holes around places like, say, eastern stanislaus.

http://www.water.ca.gov/waterconditions/docs/Drought_Response-Groundwater_Basins_April30_Final_BC.pdf

still useful-- some data is better than none, but most of the real info in this is coming from usgs and other sources.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
May 2, 2014 - 11:44am PT
Ground water reform you say? When does the mandatory condom use kick in?
I know, we can't talk about that.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
May 2, 2014 - 11:46am PT
Thank you. Sadly, that is a topic no politician will ever bring up.
klk

Trad climber
cali
May 2, 2014 - 11:59am PT
Living in the greater Sacramento area affords our newspaper a lot of statewide political news that the average news reader elsewhere might miss.

that's true, although the modbee and, occasionally, fresnob have been far better than sac on covering and explaining water issues.

one of the things that stand out about that report's highlight of eldo, placer and nevada counties, is that a high percentage of capitol insiders either live or have 2nd homes in those areas.

basically, all the folks who actually live near the water-- folks in the mountains and foothills --are going to end up drinking sand.


TomCochrane

Trad climber
Santa Cruz Mountains and Monterey Bay
May 3, 2014 - 02:15am PT
spent the past week as dive sup for maintaining the Santa Cruz fresh water supply reservoir

i don't want to piss off our customer...but i can tell you that the situation is much worse than the public knows anything about...
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
May 13, 2014 - 06:18pm PT
[Click to View YouTube Video]

Who would want to live in "Sakeramento, California," anyhow?

I put this link on The Flames thread, too, printed out.
http://www.fresnobee.com/2014/05/10/3921042/drought-afflicts-almonds.html
Very good journalism, in my book.

This really dovetails with my angst and bitterness about pistachios and other nuts going in on former range land around the foothills of the east side of the SJV, where, again, the water is co-opted by irrigation districts and there is (likely) more groundwater being pumped to keep these newer orchards alive than we know.

I'm not certain, but pistachios are a "quality" nut, like the almond in many minds.


Anyway, in fairness to the farmers and their families, here's some adverts from the eighties you'll remember, and some food for thought:
How many of the featured products do YOU buy? I buy literally none of them, though I have had Kudos at Halloween and Almond Joy is God's Diet Food, we all know.
[Click to View YouTube Video]A single ad a day, a six-pack every night, and a can a week of almonds, that's all they ask.
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
May 13, 2014 - 06:25pm PT
The mountains are very dry in SoCal. The pines are stressed and starting to die. So far no PCT hiker has started a conflagration with an alcohol stove, it's a miracle.
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
May 13, 2014 - 06:36pm PT
No drought in Ouray. Eight inches of snow on the deck this morning and above normal snow pack.
johntp

Trad climber
socal
May 13, 2014 - 11:51pm PT
So far no PCT hiker has started a conflagration with an alcohol stove, it's a miracle.

It is just a matter of time. Alky stoves are a great lightweight item, but it doesn't take much of an f-up to start a fire.
klk

Trad climber
cali
May 14, 2014 - 09:57pm PT
welcome to fire season.

best to ron g and everyone else in harm's way down south.
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