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karen roseme
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 14, 2014 - 04:10pm PT
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How Sea World, the Vancouver Aquarium and other outfits have prospered is by giving people an experience with nature that they long for but in the past, couldn't access. That's not how it is anymore. There are plenty of guiding services to fulfill any desire, to do anything up to and including having your picture taken on the South Pole.
The first time I watched free animals breach, breath and disappear into the ocean was the first time I thought keeping them in a concrete swimming pool was wrong.
Nice thoughts Jim!
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karen roseme
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 18, 2014 - 07:44am PT
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Jim Wharton " A few things to consider before taking your family to watch the dolphin show.... That's not a smile, that's just how their mouths are shaped. I have spent years investigating captive dolphin programs on site at dolphinariums in Hawaii and California and while serving in the US Navy was TDA at the Marine Mammal Program, Naval Amphibious Base, Coronado CA as a handler. I also have more than thirty years experience interacting with wild marine mammals in the ocean as a professional diver & captain working in marine mammal research and as a guide and operator of recreational scuba charter services in the South Pacific. Here are a few observations based on my firsthand experience:
Dolphins (orcas aka "killer whales" are the largest member of the dolphin family) along with some higher primates such as humans, chimpanzees & orangutans, are among the few animals known to display high-order, complex self-awareness behavior, and they are the only creatures besides humans, who are known to address their friends and family members by individual names. Another exceptional dolphin feature is their super-acoustical sonar ability.The best sonars humans have invented are toys in comparison. One of the main reasons the average captive dolphin lifespan is 5 yrs (instead of the 50 that wild dolphins live) is stress from being confined in small concrete tanks (a madhouse of acoustical ricochets) while bombarded by cheers & applause of crowds, filtration motor pumps, etc. Within 5 years their normal 50 year lifespan ends as they go insane from these unbearable conditions, the heartache of seperation from friends & family and they die with no desire to continue to live- that no amount of tranquilizers (usually a combination of valium & tagament) can overcome.
Dolphinariums claim that their mission is to protect dolphins in the wild through research and public education, yet places like Seaworld spend less than 1% of their profits for these purposes and the actual capture of wild dolphins by the multi-billion dollar industry is a horror story they go to great lengths to conceal and results in the slaughter of thousands of dolphins each year. If dolphins are so happy in captivity, why do they die so fast? Why the secrecy about their mortality rates? Behavior disorders? Sedative drugs?
No doubt, there would be fewer spectators if people knew how many animals were dying to amuse them and how insane the survivors become. Perhaps if the death and mental health records were displayed at the entrance, less people would buy a ticket."
Well put JIm!
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cuvvy
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arkansas
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Aug 19, 2014 - 09:46pm PT
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Sea World is going to invest several hundred million in revamps at its three units. That should help conditions,no?
I did not know they only charged 25 bucks. Probably easier for lower income families to manage that cost compared to other entertainment park.
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BLUEBLOCR
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joshua tree
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Aug 19, 2014 - 09:54pm PT
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Nature, you'de better buy some stock quick!
You know, so you can afford a boat.
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dave729
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Western America
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Aug 20, 2014 - 01:25am PT
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Harpoon a dolphin! Drag it onto your boat, look it in the eye, apologize
for killing it. It will readily give you forgiveness (flipper wave)
then cut its throat.
Now eat the dolphin:
GRILLED DOLPHIN
1 1/4 lb. thickly sliced dolphin
8 cloves fresh garlic, minced
1/2 c. olive oil
1/2 tsp. paprika
1/2 c. rice vinegar
Salt if desired
1/2 tsp. pepper, black lg. ground
Dinner for 4. Cut off any dark meat on dolphin. Marinate 4 even slices of dolphin in large bowl. All ingredients mixed for at least 6 hours. Grill 5-7 minutes on each side depending on thickness. Approximately 10 minutes total for 1 inch fillets. Baste with marinade mix while grilling.
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karen roseme
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 23, 2014 - 06:08pm PT
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Great story JIm!
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karen roseme
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 12, 2014 - 06:48am PT
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Lawsuit: SeaWorld lied to investors about real cause of sluggish attendance numbers
Michael Chen
6:53 PM, Sep 11, 2014
Copyright 2012 Scripps Media, Inc. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.
SAN DIEGO - A new lawsuit alleges cover-ups and fraud at SeaWorld, as the attorney for the shareholder now suing the theme park speaks out.
In mid-August, SeaWorld suffered a one-day 33 percent plunge after a lackluster earnings report. In the earnings call, SeaWorld acknowledged the impact of the fallout of the film "Blackfish," critical of orcas in captivity.
The class-action complaint alleges federal securities violations and claims SeaWorld broke the law by not acknowledging it sooner.
In the 14 months since "Blackfish" hit theaters, SeaWorld has blamed slumping attendance numbers on everything from the weather to holidays.
In the just-filed federal complaint, a Michigan shareholder accuses SeaWorld of lying to keep its stock price high.
Attorney Jonathan Stern, who represents the investor, said, "It violates securities laws if you know the reason and don't tell investors the real reason for that problem."
Stern claims it's implausible that surveys about "Blackfish" SeaWorld has said it was conducting would not have pointed to problems.
"The press coverage made it clear it was having an effect. The only one claiming it wasn't having an effect was SeaWorld," said Stern.
Stern alleges the SeaWorld cover-up kept the stock price inflated, allowing its key shareholder, The Blackstone Group, to dump its shares -- going from a 63 percent stake in the company in April 2013 to a 22 percent stake a year later.
Last month, SeaWorld acknowledged for the first time the "Blackfish" impact.
"If SeaWorld is found guilty, they're certainly going to be seen as not honest or trustworthy," said Miro Copic, a marketing professor at San Diego State University.
Copic said the lawsuit creates more potential issues for SeaWorld.
Weeks after announcing it will double the size of the orca exhibit, SeaWorld again is facing more "Blackfish" fallout.
Copic said if this grows into a large class-action suit -- ending in stiff penalties for SeaWorld -- the film's impact would stay front and center in the headlines.
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Jon Beck
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Oceanside
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Nov 13, 2014 - 03:40pm PT
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Seaworld stock continues to tank. Capitalism works well sometimes, in this case it is destroying SeaWorld.
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karen roseme
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 23, 2014 - 09:29am PT
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karen roseme
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 12, 2014 - 06:31am PT
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SeaWorld boss steps down after film hurts attendance
Whoo-hoo!
Our goal is not to hurt SeaWorld. It is to get them to change their business model!
Build some rides. After all they are an amusement park!
Captivity is cruel
http://www.bbc.com/news/business-30438924
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Reilly
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The Other Monrovia- CA
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Dec 12, 2014 - 09:10am PT
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Our goal is not to hurt SeaWorld
Mine is. Phuk those buttholes. OK, I'll let 'em continue to operate
with a few tanks full of goldfish and guppies.
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karen roseme
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 1, 2015 - 06:31am PT
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Dolphins and whales in the wild are worth more alive than dead.
Captivity kills! Don’t buy a ticket to a dolphinarium.
We support the Japanese peoples’ rights to learn the truth about the contamination of dolphin and whale meat. Our concerns include the people of Japan, who should not be consuming meat laced with mercury and radioactivity.
Japan can rebuild its damaged economy using eco-tourism and green policies rather than perpetuating the dolphin hunts of the past.
Many Japanese don’t know about the drive fishery killing of dolphins and actually oppose it when they understand what is happening.
Tourism is a major industry in Japan, along with a growing whale and dolphin-watching operation.
https://dolphinproject.net/japan-dolphins-day/
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cuvvy
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arkansas
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Hopefully they can change some of their policies and continue entertaining children and adults in the years to come.
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john hansen
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There is a new book out called Beneath the Surface by John Hargrove.
He was a trainer at Sea World for 12 years and has lots of stories of the stress the whales endure. They did not evolve to be held in such small pens and pools. Whales as young as 8 years old artificially inseminated when they don't breed in the wild to 14. They want as many baby whales born as possible. Only a few of the 34 they have spent time in the wild.
None of them would survive in the wild. Most are now hybrids from whales from different regions. Then thrown together with other whales they can not communicate with. Many are third generation and inbreed as well.
Many stories of aggressive whales attacking their trainers. Can't say I blame them.
Not a very sad story.
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karen roseme
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 5, 2015 - 08:09am PT
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It is horrid what happens In taiji every year. American tourists swimming with dolphins and our dolphin shows etc, are the biggest contributing factor to this event. We have the power to stop it. Tell people, impact those around you. 90% of people I speak to never watched the cove or know anything about this. Speak.up.
https://dolphinproject.net/take-action/save-japan-dolphins/
Another great book!
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