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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 11, 2012 - 06:30pm PT
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Murder 2 and he is in custody.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Apr 11, 2012 - 06:31pm PT
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That special-prosecutor woman is a joke!
She claims the authorities acted quickly, even though they waited a month-and-a-half to do anything.
Most murder suspects are arrested at the moment they're identified and located, with charges coming no less than 72 hours later. At least the ones around here are. They're a good bit slower in Florida.
Is tonight's Riot at the Fruitvale BART Station still on?
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lostinshanghai
Social climber
someplace
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Apr 11, 2012 - 06:34pm PT
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Wonder what Zimmerman's attorney is going to use as his defense: suffering from PTSD: resulting from intensely frightening, disturbing, shocking, painful and/or life-threatening situations.
Did he have PTSD before he shot or after?
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corniss chopper
climber
breaking the speed of gravity
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Apr 11, 2012 - 06:41pm PT
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Its impossible that fat old George Zimmerman could ever run and catch
17 yr old football player Trayvon Martin and start a fist fight.
While speedy Trayvon easily ran and caught waddling George and started the fight. And while pounding Georges head on the ground, he sees the gun, reaches for it, misses, and pays the ultimate price.
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michaeld
Sport climber
Sacramento
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Apr 11, 2012 - 06:43pm PT
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Just gotta wait for the evidence to come out . . .
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monolith
climber
albany,ca
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Apr 11, 2012 - 06:52pm PT
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There won't be any more evidence about who escalated to physical confrontation. Nobody else saw it.
Doesn't matter that Martin was on top at some point, if he did not start the escalation, he's entitled to defend himself.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Apr 11, 2012 - 07:03pm PT
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It shouldn't matter how badly Zimmerman was injured because Martin was fighting for his life.
Apparently, Zimmerman wasn't wounded badly enough. Maybe if Martin had been more violent, he'd still be with us.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Apr 11, 2012 - 07:15pm PT
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What Fattrad said.
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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Apr 11, 2012 - 07:19pm PT
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"Unless you've been in law enforcement or a criminal prosecutor, you have no idea how difficult it is to investigate a difficult homicide case"
Yeah, especially if you don't start the damn investigation until a month and media shitstorm later.
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Apr 11, 2012 - 07:46pm PT
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If they brought charges they probably have a good case. But I believe in innocent until proven guilty so it will be interesting to see how this plays out.
The cries for help on the 911 call sounded to me like a teenager. Zimmerman claims it was him. One of the fist things I heard from the prosecutor was she was going to have the voice analyzed. Some independent voice analysts said it wasn't Z. If Zimmerman got caught in a lie there he f*#ked up big time. Also Z's story to me sounds fishy. Why is T going to attack him out of nowhere, it doesn't make sense.
As I said I'm not condemning Z yet. What he said could be true. I'm glad this is going to trial. But the limited evidence I've read so far and the charges being filed lead me to believe he confronted T, a fight started, and he shot him. His actions also portray a man saddled with guilt, which he probably wouldn't have if things went down like he said they did.
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monolith
climber
albany,ca
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Apr 11, 2012 - 07:50pm PT
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Expert witnesses can be bought quite easily. It may be a battle of expert witnesses and proof beyond a reasonable doubt for 12 people will be tough.
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Gene
climber
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Apr 11, 2012 - 07:57pm PT
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Let both sides bring it on in front of a judge and jury. Let the judge referee and the jury decide. That's how it should work. Good move.
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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Apr 11, 2012 - 08:30pm PT
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We'll see if it even goes to trial. I do look forward to hearing more information.
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michaeld
Sport climber
Sacramento
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Apr 11, 2012 - 08:47pm PT
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All the Martin's wanted was an arrest...
They didn't specify a conviction...
Kind of stupid in my opinion. They need someone to take the downfall.
Were they there? No.
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monolith
climber
albany,ca
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Apr 11, 2012 - 08:49pm PT
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Possibly, murder 2 was filed, to get a manslaughter plea later. Seems risky. Why not manslaughter to start?
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Apr 11, 2012 - 08:52pm PT
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What's going to happen if this turns into an innocent verdict say around September?
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michaeld
Sport climber
Sacramento
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Apr 11, 2012 - 08:58pm PT
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"Race" riots.
Kinda like when you call a hooker a whore and she says "f*#k you"...
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michaeld
Sport climber
Sacramento
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Apr 11, 2012 - 09:16pm PT
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Black on white riots. Lead by Al Sharpton, reinforced by the Black Panthers.
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michaeld
Sport climber
Sacramento
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Apr 11, 2012 - 09:24pm PT
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Yepp.....
But hey, it adds to the intensity right?
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zBrown
Ice climber
Chula Vista, CA
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Apr 11, 2012 - 10:07pm PT
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"Unless you've been in law enforcement or a criminal prosecutor, you have no idea how difficult it is to investigate a difficult homicide case"
Just like you can't know that cancer is bad unless you've had it I guess.
zBrown,
You don't know anything.
But I did say it was most likely murder and your law enforcement gal in the trenches above agrees. Good guess huh? Dumbass.
When you get some free time put together a dosier on how it is that you know so much. Most everyone that I read around here seems to agree that you know nothing and are stupid to boot. The closest thing I can think of that matches you is Beavis having a conversation with Butthead.
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