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philo
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Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Nov 26, 2011 - 10:03am PT
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NO SkiptSquat that is just another Hebrew "Cry for our victim-ness Myth".
The Jews of that time were known as the Hyksos and they were invaders and occupiers. At first they took advantage of the disintegrated nature of the Egyptian state. The indigenous Egyptians appreciated the stability the outside rulers initially brought. Eventually Their reign became oppressive and totalitarian. They were eventually driven out and the country purged of all their influence. The notion that they were slaves is total myth. They were the enslavers. And they were hated for it. But true to Jewish tradition they perverted truth to their pathetic victimized narrative.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origins_of_the_Hyksos
http://www.freemaninstitute.com/Gallery/joseph.htm
Sorry to burst your BS bubble but the truth of history is there to those willing to open their eyes and free themselves of the Zionist narrative.
quote]I like reading the bible for what it is.[/quote]
And what is the BIBLE? Please don't try and say it is the undeniable word of GAWD. Because it isn't.
At best it is a loose interpretive historical narrative written for political influence by fallible men.
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Nov 26, 2011 - 10:22am PT
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Guess who is a fetus eater, a homophobe and a gimp hater?
When Skip grows up he wants to have a penis.
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Nov 26, 2011 - 10:28am PT
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There is not one shred of archeological evidence that the Hyksos/Hebrews were slaves in Egypt.
A blast of God smote us; and unexpectedly from the regions of the East invaders of obscure race marched in confidence of victory against our land. By main force they easily overpowered the rulers of the land; they then burned our cities ruthlessly and razed to the ground the temples of the gods and treated all the natives with a cruel hostility -- massacring some and leading into slavery the wives and children of others ..... (Author and Egyptian Priest Manetho)
Hey Lil Skipper, what is the definition of Semite?
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Nov 26, 2011 - 11:17am PT
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Not wanting to corrupt the pepper spray thread with more religious twaddle, but...
http://www.specialtyinterests.net/hyksos.html
And further provision was made for the poor. There is nothing, after their recognition of the claims of God, that more distinguishes the laws given by Moses than the liberal, tender, and hospitable spirit enjoined toward the poor. Although God had promised greatly to bless His people, it was not His design that poverty should be wholly unknown among them. He declared that the poor should never cease out of the land. There would ever be those among His people who would call into exercise their sympathy, tenderness, and benevolence. Then, as now, persons were subject to misfortune, sickness, and loss of property; yet so long as they followed the instruction given by God, there were no beggars among them, neither any who suffered for food.
The law of God gave the poor a right to a certain portion of the produce of the soil. When hungry, a man was at liberty to go to his neighbor's field or orchard or vineyard, and eat of the grain or fruit to satisfy his hunger. It was in accordance with this permission that the disciples of Jesus plucked and ate of the standing grain as they passed through a field upon the Sabbath day.
Why are you so anti-Christian?
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Nov 26, 2011 - 11:23am PT
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Tell us again why you deride gimps?
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Nov 26, 2011 - 11:56am PT
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Skippy I can see you don't want it to be true but it is.
There is great secular pressure to invalidate the Bible. Because if you can invalidate GOD's word, well then, it must all be a myth and not true. GOD doesn't exist. Its all fantasy.
But, as times goes on, more and more archeological evidence and other empirical evidence supports the Bible's truth, even the recent discovery of Bible Code. Even Newton looked for it, knew it had to exist, because the Bible even hints about it, but he didn't find it. It was meant for our time with the advent of the computer, near the last days of this era of time. It's not the end, but a change, a New Beginning (The Millennium is coming) . . .
There are many who do not want the Hebrews/the Jews to be proven to have been enslaved in Egypt and that the Exodus told in the Old Testament is true. But they were, and the Exodus did happen.
But the real big truth that you are missing is the fact that GOD indeed expects us to abide by the 2 Great Commandments. And we are our Brother's Keeper. In fact, many would argue that the entire Bible is about doing the right thing and being our Brother's Keeper and taking care of others out of love and our personal abundance and wealth, or not, so then giving what we can afford even if it isn't much. That goes for governments too. That is what the entire Bible is about from beginning to end. A return to GOD, living our lives properly and doing the right thing. That completely includes being our Brother's Keeper, taking care of others less fortunate or in need. Governments rise and fall by what they do or don't do morally and ethically. GOD sees to it. Those Governments that obey GOD and do right by their people and other nations prosper. Turn your back on GOD and do evil and that nation will fall.
Skippy, read your Bible. Its all there and its true.
Two good articles on the evidence that the Hebrews/the Jews were indeed enslaved and that the Exudus did happen:
2 different views both very interesting . . .
The Date of the Exodus: 1440 BC
Pharaoh who killed Hebrew children: Amuntotep I: 1526-1505 BC
Pharaoh's Daughter who adopted Moses: Hatshepsut: 1520 BC
Pharaoh of Moses' flight to Midian: Thutmoses II/Hatshepsut: 1492-1479 BC
Pharaoh of the Exodus: Thutmoses III: 1479/1458 - 1425 BC
http://www.bible.ca/archeology/bible-archeology-exodus-date-1440bc.htm
Is there evidence of the Exodus from Egypt?
http://www.biblicalchronologist.org/answers/exodus_egypt.php
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Nov 26, 2011 - 12:24pm PT
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I think it is much funnier.
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Nov 26, 2011 - 12:51pm PT
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Back to the point of this thread...
Abuse of power by the COPS.
What about my suggestion that all LEOs get tested for steroid use and abuse and fired if caught?
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Nov 26, 2011 - 04:09pm PT
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Locker that is the grimmest picture of Fattrad imaginable.
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Nov 26, 2011 - 06:01pm PT
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Hey Skipt, why are you hating on Fred Astaire?
He was a life long Conservative Republican after all.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Astaire
Politically, Astaire was a conservative and a lifelong Republican Party supporter,[42] though he never made his political views publicly known.[43] Along with Bing Crosby, George Murphy, Ginger Rogers and others he was a charter (founding) member of the Hollywood Republican Committee.[44] He was churchgoing, supportive of American military action and was dismissive of the more open sexiness of movies in the 1970s.[43]
Your kind of man I would think. Except for his abundant talent, skill and intelligence which is sadly lacking in Conservative Republicants of today. Oh now I get it, it's because of his talent, skill and intelligence.
What's on FoX?
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donald perry
Trad climber
kearny, NJ
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Nov 27, 2011 - 10:44pm PT
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Dear Ken M.,
I apologize for not fully understanding all of what you have said thus far. I am having some trouble understanding you completely.
I am trying to find out how you define the U.S.A. as to what runs it. What is it that is the reason for government, *what* does it represent?
In your very own words and personal opinion is there or is there not a place for peaceful protest?
And, what did you think of the civil war, where violent *protest* was used. Is violence ever an option in your own personal opinion?
Thanks,
DJP
PS Sorry again that I am asking the question. Can you give me a little help here?
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Nov 28, 2011 - 12:31am PT
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That's fattrad on the gas...RJ
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Nov 28, 2011 - 10:38am PT
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And interesting perspective.
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/opinion/if-the-social-protest-dies-out-israel-to-see-a-new-feudalism-1.398151
Published 02:44 28.11.11Latest update 02:44 28.11.11
If the social protest dies out, Israel to see a new feudalism
The U.S. has a tradition of civil protests that lead to significant changes: women's suffrage, equal rights for blacks, pulling out of Vietnam. There is reason to fear a social protest that is rapidly catching on. In Israel there has yet to be a social protest that led to a policy change.
By Merav Michaeli
Full text below.
After being arrested when helping nonviolent demonstrators to realize their freedom of expression and their right to protest, the well-known writer Naomi Wolf discovered that freedom of expression and protest in America is not what it used to be ("The shocking truth about the suppression of protest in the United States," by Naomi Wolf, The Guardian, November 27.)
In addition, she discovered that in violation of U.S. law, the Department of Homeland Security advised 18 cities as to how to suppress this protest. In fact the Occupy Wall Street demonstrations were suppressed with pepper spray, beatings and arrests, which led Wolf to wonder why such a popular, hapless protest led the federal government to react with such violence.
She discovered that although the media described the Wall Street protest as unfocused, its demands are actually very focused on three legislative changes that are highly threatening to legislators and their allies: limiting the sums of money that interested parties can donate to candidates in elections, a reform in the banking system that will prevent fraud and manipulations for which small depositors pay the price, and canceling the ability of members of Congress to legislate laws concerning corporations in which they have investments. According to Wolf this third demand is the most threatening, since more and more Congressmen entered the political system as members of the middle class and emerged very wealthy - and she claims they have no intention of endangering that.
Here too, the elected exploit their status to enrich themselves and their friends. The list of MKs and ministers who have become wealthy - or at least well-off - is a long one, and here they are doing it even though it is in violation of the law.
Changes in legislation won't improve our situation. Civil servants also exploit their status to enrich those who will soon be giving them the tools to enrich themselves. The list of CEOs, senior executives and advisers of tycoons impressively coincides with the list of former regulators and senior government officials. Therefore, here too both groups are interested in seeing the socioeconomic protest disappear.
But here there is no need for violence. In the United States there is a tradition of civil protests, which have led to significant changes: women's suffrage, equal rights for blacks, pulling out of Vietnam. There is reason to fear a social protest that is rapidly catching on. In Israel there has yet to be a social protest - peaceful or violent - that led to a policy change. From the Black Panthers to the encampments this summer, in Israel the protests are only another tool with which the government can divide and rule. The government managed to split even the most recent protest, which clung to solidarity, and presented it as a hostile factor with vested interests.
In this way the Israeli controllers of money and power can simply ignore one tenth of the population, which took to the streets to express a heartfelt protest about life that is becoming increasingly hard and burdensome here - and neither their power nor their money will suffer. Also thanks to the media, which may have provided broad coverage of the protest when it was too big to ignore, but is once again describing it as unfocused at best and bizarre at worst. The media moguls are also among those who find it convenient to exploit the majority for the benefit of their own wealth.
Yale anthropologist Prof. David Graeber claims that capitalism is falling apart, and the only question is what will follow it: a system of authoritarian rule of minorities over the majority, or "a genuine democratic system, in which we will all have a genuine opportunity to decide?" ("Capitalism is based on constant growth, and we have reached the limit," Asher Schechter, TheMarker Hebrew website, November 26 ).
In Israel, already now the system is National Capitalism. If the social protest really does die out as did its predecessors, Israel will probably be the first country in which the concept "neofeudalism" will turn from an expression used by leftist economic philosophers to the name of the type of regime practiced in it: Neo-National-Feudalism.
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rectorsquid
climber
Lake Tahoe
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Nov 28, 2011 - 11:38am PT
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There must be space for civil disobedience on our campus.
That's funny. It's not disobedience if it's legal and allowed.
Dave
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
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Sep 26, 2012 - 06:21pm PT
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http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/09/uc-davis-pepper-spray.html
UC to pay nearly $1 million in UC Davis pepper-spray settlement
The University of California will pay damages of $30,000 to each of the 21 UC Davis students and alumni who were pepper-sprayed by campus police during an otherwise peaceful protest 10 months ago, the university system announced Wednesday.
The agreement, which must still be approved in federal court, also calls for UC to pay a total of $250,000 to the plaintiffs’ attorneys and set aside a maximum of $100,000 to pay up to $20,000 to any other individuals who join the class-action lawsuit by proving they were either arrested or directly pepper-sprayed, a university statement said.
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
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Sep 26, 2012 - 06:22pm PT
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Is Fattrad still banned? I wish he could see this.
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Sep 26, 2012 - 06:40pm PT
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He'd float the river denial even if he could....
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zBrown
Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
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Sep 26, 2012 - 08:02pm PT
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UC to pay a total of $250,000 to the plaintiffs’ attorneys
I wonder how many they had. If there were 10 then the payout was better for the sprayees.
This would then be another case of parasitic moochers getting more from the state than hard working practitioners.
Ow, I just got something in my eye.
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
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Oct 24, 2013 - 06:42pm PT
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http://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/10/24/pepper-spray-officer-uc-davis-john-pike-compensation?hpt=hp_t3
You might not know John Pike by name, but you'd likely recognize him from the video that made him famous -- or more accurately, infamous.
Now widely known as the "Pepper Spray Cop," thanks to the viral video that earned him his notoriety, the former UC Davis police officer was filmed casually firing off pepper spray at close range into the faces of seated Occupy protesters during a November 18, 2011, rally on the northern California school's campus.
Pike might have lost his job over the incident, but he's now being awarded more than $38,000 as a result of it.
An administrative law judge ruled last week that the University of California must pay Pike $38,055.79 (don't forget the 79 cents) in workers' compensation for the depression and anxiety he suffered as a result of the video's popularity.
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