The Massive Ark on the Moon (very OT, but of high interest)

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Klimmer

Mountain climber
San Diego
Topic Author's Reply - May 11, 2010 - 02:21am PT
How is this whacked out specifically?
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
May 11, 2010 - 02:26am PT
A friend of mine's uncle was a colonel who worked on Project Bluebook. He wouldn't tell him anything "and if I did you wouldn't believe me anyway."
edejom

Boulder climber
Butte, America
May 11, 2010 - 03:04am PT
666--Kilmmer, thanks for the disclosure links from nations around the globe, sans the US of A's666
Klimmer

Mountain climber
San Diego
Topic Author's Reply - May 11, 2010 - 09:43am PT
edejom,

Wheeeeewwww! Just missed that "infamous" post number. Thanks for taking the hit. Lol.


So fellow science ST lovers, one of our most illustrious modern father figures of science Carl Sagan, admitted to a close personal fellow highly respected scientist that he knew UFOs/Aliens are real, but for said reasons wouldn't admit it publically.

So what do we have to say about that?
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland
May 11, 2010 - 10:14am PT
This thread needs more BooBs!

brotherbbock

Trad climber
Alta Loma, CA
May 11, 2010 - 12:43pm PT
Why is every picture of a UFO so different from one another?

It must be like fricken Star Wars out there with every alien driving their own unique ship.

Even if half those pics on Klimmers websites are legit then there are sh#t tons of different types of UFO's flying around Earth.

P.S thanks for the boob shots guys....it keeps this serious thread very serious.
MeatBomb

Gym climber
Boise, I dee Hoe
May 11, 2010 - 01:36pm PT
OMG, it lives!
apogee

climber
May 11, 2010 - 01:53pm PT
I was going to blow this thread off completely, but as long as Pate has started adding some nice 'mountains of the moon' pics, I might check in once in a while.
Port

Trad climber
San Diego
May 11, 2010 - 03:12pm PT
picking up on brother's points,

Its also surprising that with all the advances in video technology since the 1960s we still cant get a decent picture! (without killmer's computer rendering of course) Whats up with that? There are also video cameras EVERYWHERE now, yet all the pictures of UFOS are blurry.

brotherbbock

Trad climber
Alta Loma, CA
May 11, 2010 - 03:26pm PT
Yeah UFO photos seem to add no credibility to the existence of aliens in my opinion.

Also, as someone who uses photo shop and understands it's power, I not at all impressed by any of those photos nor am I certain of their legitimacy.

I actually clicked through about 100 of those photos, and I must say that if they are indeed real then HOLY F-ING SH#TE!!! It's like a Star Trek movie out there!!!

Port

Trad climber
San Diego
May 11, 2010 - 03:39pm PT
Here is a good link:

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/58351main_apollo16_1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.nasa.gov/vision/space/travelinginspace/no_ufo.html&usg=__mk-h6VUmv8JEy9DuJDvfcFL92eo=&h=345&w=475&sz=43&hl=en&start=8&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=1pCR3KdyPh7fIM:&tbnh=94&tbnw=129&prev=/images%3Fq%3DUFOs%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DX%26tbs%3Disch:1


NASA actually takes the time to debunk a UFO myth from start to finish. The only problem is that by the time they debunk the next one, Klimmer has created 5 more.
brotherbbock

Trad climber
Alta Loma, CA
May 11, 2010 - 03:40pm PT
lol Port!
Klimmer

Mountain climber
San Diego
Topic Author's Reply - May 11, 2010 - 07:40pm PT
So Klimmer, you taken a look at the rills that some people have claimed are canals, and others have said are a transportation system broken and abandoned? There are several good examples on the same stereo pair that had the Golf ball.

I was thinking about blowing them up and posting them. It would go hard on the tunnel theory. The arching supports look more like curious snow than arcing braces. But the corious question still will remain as to what causes them and why there.

Canals could be close to the answer. Underground water seeping through the soil making a sticky place for water ice? Low spots along ancient river beds providing shade and shelter for the snow from the winds over huge amounts of time?

Rokjox,

The sinuous rill like structures with what looks to be depositional features with ribs at a 90 degree to the run of the rills are very interesting. I can't think of a Earth analog that is exactly the same. We are seeing natural features and formations on Mars that just make us scratch our heads and say "weird." Richard Hoagland goes into it a great deal. I dunno. Really good MRO HiRISE images of said features would be great to look at.

Post them if you got em. They really, really help.

On Mars there is some really weird features for sure in the infamous Cydonia region. Interesting how Google Mars has some of the pyramidal features all hidden by a (purposeful?) scrambled no-resolution image in said area.



Regarding those beautiful woman above . . .

http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/k/kjv/kjv-idx?type=DIV1&byte=1477
Gen.6:1-4 (KJV)
[1] And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
[2] That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
[3] And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
[4] There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

Now you see why the Angels fell. Woman like that can make Men and Angels fall. I'm telling you gentleman, you got to be careful. Pure Krytonite. Look away, look away! Run away!

Lol.

LithiumMetalman

Trad climber
cesspool central
May 11, 2010 - 08:21pm PT
This thread needs more BooBs!

Agreed, in spirit of this thread, how bout some Alien hoo-hoos?



Klimmer

Mountain climber
San Diego
Topic Author's Reply - May 11, 2010 - 11:12pm PT
Larry King over the years certainly has made the UFO/Alien question very public.

Between the professional debunkers on the show truth still does come out. It is good to see both sides. I line up with those who are brave, facing the ridicule, and telling the truth. We do indeed hide this stuff, but it is getting harder and harder to do since more and more are seeing the phenomenon around the World. Many other countries are much more open and honest regarding this phenomenon than the US is. Perhaps the US has been lying and covering up for so long they are acting like an individual that has a serious psychosis and can't do anything but lie - pathological lying can do that.

CNN Larry King Live: UFOs Are They Out There? – pt1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4cM30r4YoI&feature=related
CNN Larry King Live-UFOs-Are They Out There?-pt2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FW2KRzm0tvk&NR=1
CNN Larry King Live-UFOs-Are They Out There?-pt3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twAd7LXr-44&feature=related
CNN Larry King Live-UFOs-Are They Out There?-pt4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JS-TO1DE8e0&feature=related
CNN Larry King Live-UFOs-Are They Out There?-pt5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7Xk2tkyPsE&feature=related
CNN Larry King Live-UFOs-Are They Out There?-pt6 End
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKDrqnSKl0Y&feature=related

CNN Larry King Live - UFOs: Are They for Real? . Part 1-4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SF_gxlpVDaY&feature=related
CNN Larry King Live - UFOs: Are They for Real? . Part 2-4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzFInjXZ08Q&NR=1
CNN Larry King Live - UFOs: Are They for Real? . Part 3-4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMvuzswxnZA&NR=1
CNN Larry King Live - UFOs: Are They for Real? . Part 4-4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKXaUg2e-hI&feature=related

Larry King Live:UFO Debate (Part 1 Of 4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4x84QrZxRKE&feature=related
Larry King Live:UFO Debate (Part 2 Of 4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sby-c9CTVk&feature=related
Larry King Live:UFO Debate (Part 3 Of 4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RQWBQBhuso&feature=related
Larry King Live:UFO Debate (Part 4 Of 4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1nxETURYSQ&feature=related


Here is the latest following the recent annoucement of PhD Steven Hawkings . . .
Larry King Live: Are Aliens a threat? pt 1/3 (30/4/2010)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5ehobjmVfQ
Larry King Live: Are Aliens a threat? pt 2/3 (30/4/2010)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UhQVT2dHXw&feature=related
Larry King Live: Are Aliens a threat? Pt 3/3 (30/4/2010)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R21rurZgi4o&feature=related



brotherbbock

Trad climber
Alta Loma, CA
May 11, 2010 - 11:19pm PT
So wait.......are the aliens piloting the ships extra-terrestrial or intra-terrestrial Klimmer?

How do aliens jive with the good book?
edejom

Boulder climber
Butte, America
May 12, 2010 - 12:13am PT
brotherbbock, how would you define "angel" when reading the Bible?
Klimmer

Mountain climber
San Diego
Topic Author's Reply - May 12, 2010 - 12:15am PT
BB,

I'm going to assume you are really asking and not just poking fun.


So from a Christian's point of View:

Intra-Terrestrials

It is a serious question. For anyone and even Christians the idea we are not alone and that there are Aliens out there that sometimes do not do benevolent things to humans is absolutely frightening, and for good reason.

In the Good Book, Aliens are indeed discussed in Bible code:

Roswell in the Bible Codes
http://www.research-systems.com/codes/roswell.htm

Roswell - Alien Crash code
http://www.bibleprobe.com/roswell.htm


In the Good Book there is a hiearchy as I understand it:

GOD the Father
GOD the Son, Jesus Christ
God the Holy Spirit
"The Trinity"

The Heavenly Hosts:
Holy Angels and other many Wonderful Creatures of GOD





Then you have the Fallen:
Lucifer (Satan)
Fallen Angels (1/3 of the Angels)
Nephilim (Offspring of Fallen Angels and Mankind)
Demons (out of body Nephilim)



From all descriptions of the Aliens, that are not benevolent and do wicked acts to mankind, abductions, experiments, etc. against mans' will must certainly be demons.

Are there truly benevolent Aliens? I'm not sure. The Good Book says Lucifer can appear as an Angel of Light. He is the author of deception. Aliens and UFOs could be a massive last days deception to turn mankind further away from GOD. Jesus talked about this happening in the last days.

The difference is a Christian and someone who knows GOD, there are specific directions in the Good Book to test the spirits to see whether they are of GOD. There is protection, power, and safety against evil for those who know GOD and seek his help. True believers have power over Lucifer and can command him to leave from them, this would include power over those other fallen creatures also. We have power in the name of Jesus Christ.

Test the spirits to See If They Are From God
http://www.layevangelism.com/qreference/spiritual-warfare/spiritual-warfare4.htm


This is all very heavy stuff. Many will dismiss it because they are not believers. But for those who seek GOD and ask GOD for help, GOD protects.


Must see for Christians:

PhD Chuck Missler: The Return of the Nephilim
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3473883928564642733#





You have to be on Guard . . .


brotherbbock

Trad climber
Alta Loma, CA
May 12, 2010 - 12:25am PT
Thanks...that is exactly what i was wondering

i admit I have been poking some fun throughout this thread, but i must also admit you have very compelling arguments and a plethora of information as backup.

keep up the good work. these are indeed topics i am also trying to reconcile with my faith as well. this thread at least gives some interesting points of view for me to ponder over.
Port

Trad climber
San Diego
May 12, 2010 - 01:20am PT
As any good scientist would know, your theory or hypotheses must have predictive power. So what do you predict Klimmer, based on your belief system?

On a side note. If that big rock looking "monolith" on the moon of mars is actually a monolith, Im going to go ahead and call dibs on the FA.
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