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On a happier note,

Now why dont some of you search out and post when concealed carriers have saved the day or the moment or some ones life? They are out there but you have to grovel deeply for them as it seems major media sources all but ignore those happenings since they dont match their mantra of the moment.

The reason they DON"T is because it DOESN'T happen very often. Compared to the amount of people killed by guns, intentionally or accidentally, its a trivial amount.

Which of the proposed gun-control laws would have kept this incident from happening?

Causal chains, please.

Since the media is mostly conservative (Fox dominates the ratings), if this statement had a fraction of truth the righties would be playing it nonstop. The reason they DON"T is because it DOESN'T happen very often. Compared to the amount of people killed by guns, intentionally or accidentally, its a trivial amount.

Gun-culture? 90,900,000 google hits, figure it out for yourself.

A Texas boy who was accidentally shot in the face by his 7-year-old cousin is out of surgery and expected to survive his injuries, police officials told the Los Angeles Times on Friday.

The 8-year-old was struck in the left cheek around 4:30 p.m. on Thursday at the Harbor Oaks Apartments in Texas City, a city of 45,000 roughly 40 miles outside of Houston, accoring to Texas City Police Capt. Joe Stanton.

Emergency crews airlifted the boy to Memorial Hermann Hospital in Houston, where he remains in the pediatric intensive care unit in critical condition.

The victim, his 9-year-old brother and his 7-year-old cousin were all left alone inside an apartment on Thursday after the person their mother asked to watch them left the residence for an unknown reason, Stanton said.

The children later told police that they found a loaded .380 caliber semiautomatic handgun somewhere in the house.

I have yet to hear one plausible argument against such a standard...

You are trying to diffuse the issue. Stay on point.

A 7-year-old Florida boy is in critical condition after his grandmother mistakenly shot him, sheriff’s deputies say.

Linda Maddox, 63, was sleeping in her bedroom with her twin grandsons after their father had gone to work, said Cristal Bermudez Nunez of the Hillsborough County Sheriff’s Office.

Concerned about her safety, Maddox had placed a chair against the bedroom door handle for “extra protection” before going to bed at about 11:45 p.m., Bermudez Nunez said. A loaded .22-caliber revolver sat on the floor next to the mattress.

Just before 1 a.m., sheriff’s deputies say, Maddox heard the chair sliding against the hardwood floor. Believing there was an intruder, Maddox grabbed the gun and fired one shot toward the door.

Seconds later, deputies said, she heard her grandson, Tyler Maddox, screaming. He had been shot once in the upper body, and was taken to a hospital, where was listed in critical but stable condition.

A 29-year-old thug violently ripped a 66-year-old Phoenix, Arizona woman from her car in an attempt to steal it, causing her neighbors to spring forward in her defense. One of the neighbors, a woman, was injured as the car knocked her down. Her husband, who was able to retrieve his handgun from their home and opened fire, struck the suspect in the stolen car.

Police say the suspect started to drive away, and the vehicle struck the woman and knocked her to the ground, causing her to receive a head injury.

After seeing his wife knocked to the ground, police say her husband fired several shots at the suspect in the vehicle from a handgun he had gotten from inside his house. The suspect fled the area in the vehicle.

The neighbor woman was transported and hospitalized for a head injury she received when she fell after being struck by the vehicle. Her injury is believed to be non life-threatening.

A short time after the suspect stole the vehicle and fled, police received a call of a single vehicle collision in the area of 24th Street and Thomas. The suspect ran off the roadway in the vehicle and struck a fixed object.

The responding officers discovered it was the stolen vehicle and that the driver was the suspect. Police say he had suffered a gunshot wound.

He was transported to a local hospital, but later died of his injuries.

I don't argue against standards. But I DO ask why you and other single out such tragedies for special condemnation of gun owners, when there are other, FAR worse and epidemic tragedies affecting kids on a FAR more epic scale.

Tit for tat....

The existence of arguably larger tragedies does not in fact justify the neglect of this one. Nobody is "singling out" anything. In fact, it would be a much stronger argument to say "why is it that of all the tragedies gun violence appears to be the one that is singled out to be NOT worked on."

1. The guy got away with the car...no crime was prevented here.

2. The man discharged his firearm in a residential neighborhood. He appears to have hit his target but easily could have missed and hit things on the other side...like innocent people. I'm pretty sure shooting a guy AFTER he has stopped being violent and is fleeing the scene fails to meet any standard of defense.

3. The suspect was killed for fleeing in a stolen car. I'm supposed to feel good about this?

4. Tit for tat? Does an unprevented carjacking nullify the near-homicide of a 7 year old?

Wrong. As I've pointed out before, everybody I know with a gun takes their training FAR more seriously than do the cops! I, for one, HIT what I aim at. Apparently so can this guy.

Some yahoo firing....