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fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Jul 27, 2014 - 05:36am PT
A friend from Pakistan (also with citizenship here) recently got his permit... You want to talk about strange looks and paperwork!
crankster

Trad climber
Jul 27, 2014 - 08:07am PT
TradEddie

Trad climber
Philadelphia, PA
Jul 27, 2014 - 01:04pm PT
11 year old news?

6 years after the Heller decision, a judge finding that a total ban on handguns for self-defense in DC is unconstitutional makes the headlines? Seems about as sensational as "judge finds constitutional right to free speech".

Just as Heller laid clear the right to bear arms, while underscoring the legitimate government interest in protecting public safety, this recent ruling did not find the requirement for gun registration unconstitutional, nor the prohibition on carrying rifles or shotgun, and even described competency requirements for permits as "sensible".

TE





TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Jul 27, 2014 - 03:32pm PT
Full text Palmer vs DC

http://alangura.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/DCT_OPINION.pdf
perswig

climber
Jul 27, 2014 - 04:17pm PT
edit: Jut got back from my private lil shooting area. The M1 now performs flawlessly and has not had a misfeed in over 100 rounds, through any magazine i have- which have all been adjusted as previously described.

From the excitement in your post, I'm betting you still

notice an ever so slight bulge-


Amiright?
Dale
crankster

Trad climber
Jul 27, 2014 - 07:03pm PT
Larry Pratt is a terrorist.
HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Jul 30, 2014 - 12:43pm PT
Tell me how a good guy with a gun is going to stop this.
next door neighbor Tenesha Higgins said there were “five or six” very loud booms — something she said is common in the public housing complex several miles northeast of downtown.

“I was just laying down to sleep,” said Higgins, 30. “I heard the gunshots. It sounded like it was literally in front of the house. I waited, then I heard screaming and police sirens.

“I opened the door and the boy was laying in the street,” she said, adding it appeared the mother’s boyfriend was trying to rush him to the hospital.

“He was a good boy,” Higgins said. “He liked to play baseball.”

or this
Jakari’s slaying follows the July 1 shooting death of a 2-year-old girl in Inkster, southwest of Detroit. Police in that case have said KaMiya Gross was killed in front of her father as retaliation from an earlier shooting. Two men are charged in her death.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/30/detroit-boy-eight-killed-shooting
HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Jul 30, 2014 - 12:59pm PT
Regarding Sportsman's Warehouse burglary
the male and female had entered the store with a large bag and had stolen numerous firearms and other miscellaneous items of merchandise with an undetermined value. The two were caught on security surveillance exiting the store;
The firearms dept should have stronger barriers after hours.

D'oh!
TradEddie

Trad climber
Philadelphia, PA
Jul 30, 2014 - 03:56pm PT
The firearms dept should have stronger barriers after hours.

It turns out there are NO ATF requirements for the security of licensee premises, only non-binding recommendations. Most civilized countries require owners of even a single gun to provide better security than described below from ATF website:

ATF recommends that Federal firearms licensees take every precaution available to protect their firearms from theft or loss.
At a minimum, an annual inventory or its equivalent is highly recommended. Physical security including alarm systems and safe business practices are also highly recommended and in some cases may be required by State or local law.

Of course, actually requiring stores to lock up their guns must presumably infringe on the god-given right to allow criminals easy access to guns.


Meanwhile, in other news, a top NRA lawyer was once convicted of murder, and as a juvenile, convicted of armed robbery...

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/07/robert-dowlut-nra-murder-mystery

Nice bunch up there at the top, one convicted murderer, one draft dodger, another couldn't teach his own son responsible gun handling.

TE




HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Jul 30, 2014 - 08:36pm PT
another couldn't teach his own son responsible gun handling
and the rest can't find their own backsides
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jul 30, 2014 - 10:00pm PT
Tell me how a good guy with a gun is going to stop this.

Could a cop have stopped the incidents?

If no, then you have no point.

If yes, then any other good guy with a gun also could have.

And exactly which proposed gun control laws would have stopped the incidents?

Causal chains please.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Aug 7, 2014 - 04:29pm PT
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HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Aug 7, 2014 - 04:34pm PT
madbolter said
Could a cop have stopped the incidents?

If no, then you have no point.

If yes, then any other good guy with a gun also could have.

And exactly which proposed gun control laws would have stopped the incidents?

Causal chains please.

Holy glib, specious argument, Batman!
crankster

Trad climber
Aug 7, 2014 - 04:34pm PT
Zzzzzzz
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Aug 7, 2014 - 06:57pm PT
Holy glib, specious argument, Batman!

Holy glib, NON-argument, Robin!

LOL
couchmaster

climber
Aug 8, 2014 - 08:01am PT
Hey Glanton, there is another thread where you can post selfies.

The President has banned all Ismash kalishnkoff Molot products from import as part of sanctions against the Russsians.
TradEddie

Trad climber
Philadelphia, PA
Aug 8, 2014 - 09:39am PT
Could a cop have stopped the incidents?

If no, then you have no point.

If yes, then any other good guy with a gun also could have.

And exactly which proposed gun control laws would have stopped the incidents?

Causal chains please.

Why is it that you require the cop or the guy with the gun to only offer the possibility of stopping those incidents, while you require gun control laws to stop them with certainty?

Without a doubt, universal background checks will reduce the probability of incidents like these. So too would stricter regulation of firearms dealers.

On a happier note, I am relieved to see that at least one Detroit Gun Nut will pay an appropriate price for drinking the gun culture's kool-aid. "I was not going to cower. I didn't want to be a victim in my own house," he said. "I drew first, that's how I see it." I hope he now cowers every day in prison. Perhaps the national attention of this case will open a few eyes and make some people think twice before they pull the trigger.

TE
StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Aug 8, 2014 - 10:18am PT
Really sad for the victim and her family, and another argument for stricter licensing requirements. Right now any yahoo can buy a gun with no qualifications or training. Part of that training should be the understanding you will go prison for a long time if you make a mistake. All the NRA wants you focus on is the need for protection, and not the consequences of poor decisions.

madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Aug 8, 2014 - 10:23am PT
I was not going to cower. I didn't want to be a victim in my own house

He shot THROUGH a door!!! No imminent threat. No excuse. End of story.


Just got my Colorado CCW today. Now I'm a card-carrying "gun nut."

Oh, wait. That would be if I joined the NRA, I think.

Whew! Perhaps I'm not a "nut" yet.
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Aug 8, 2014 - 10:31am PT
at least one Detroit Gun Nut will pay an appropriate price for drinking the gun culture's kool-aid.

Which of the proposed gun-control laws would have kept this incident from happening?

Causal chains, please.

And "the gun culture?" What does that even MEAN? ROFL
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