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Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Apr 16, 2014 - 12:29am PT
^^^
Hmm. I don't see arugula, tuscan kale, or boutique heirloom endive on that list. So I guess us Coastal Elite Limousine Libruls will be just fine.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Apr 16, 2014 - 12:36am PT
I don't see rice anywhere on that list either. Strange, seeing as we've been told the state's water is mainly used to grow rice in the desert.
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Apr 16, 2014 - 12:39am PT
What is strange about an easily preservable global staple crop, most commonly sold in a dried state, not having the same pricing impacts as one commonly sold fresh?
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Apr 16, 2014 - 12:42am PT
Remember the Great Rice Crisis Of '08?
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Apr 16, 2014 - 05:48am PT
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Yer a quack-up, DMT, the gourmand! :0)

Suffer, gourmet grocery shoppers. Duck prices will likely rise, right along with rocket and frisee.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Apr 16, 2014 - 11:31am PT
Really Chaz... growing rice in a desert? Which desert?
klk

Trad climber
cali
Apr 16, 2014 - 12:01pm PT

if you read the drought operations plan, the most striking thing about it, is that it doesn't mention groundwater. (or rather, the phrase, "ground water," appears twice but only in asides.)

no cali politician is going to touch groundwater regulation. feinstein is in bed with resnicks and westlands almonds, the dem leadership is hoping to turn more valley districts purple or even blue, and the republican "fiscal conservatives" are demanding tax increases for new big govt projects to subsidize agribusiness.

the brown admin is trying to force the courts to step in on groundwater so that jerry doesn't have to make any difficult political choices. that was also his strategy in the first term, with prop 13. didn't work out well that time, either.

we've had 1 foot per year subsidence down below modesto. that was with water delivers and probably a thousand or so fewer wells.

what do you think subsidence is going to look like this year?



couchmaster

climber
pdx
Apr 16, 2014 - 12:41pm PT
Well, you have some huge agribusiness to contend with and not just Resnicks slipping a few bucks into your politicians pockets. Cargill and Archer Danile Midlands are big players in the rice market in California. They own the water and the land. Which they can choose what to do with it, and rice is the game they choose.

Crop water needs ---> http://www.fao.org/docrep/s2022e/s2022e02.htm . Some rice info http://californiaagriculture.ucanr.edu/landingpage.cfm?article=ca.v047n03p5&fulltext=yes

And remember, if you are looking for boogiemen or want to play the blame game, that feedlots use a lot more water than rice.

Here's hoping you get some serious rain yet. "April showers bring May flowers" it's said.

mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Apr 19, 2014 - 11:47pm PT
It hasta be.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Apr 20, 2014 - 01:11am PT
Suzie Creamcheese is hawt!
MisterE

climber
Apr 20, 2014 - 01:17am PT
Monoculture is the bane of the agricultural revolution.

Just ask the bees.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Apr 20, 2014 - 03:29am PT
I thought Mono culture was based on flies.

WTF?

(Water the food.)
Jim Clipper

climber
from: forests to tree farms
Apr 20, 2014 - 03:50am PT
http://greywateraction.org/content/requirements-no-permit-systems-california

Anyone wanna help pull up some lawn tomorrow? There are some other plants that should come up too, need to mulch the new fruit trees, break come flagstone, etc. Have been known to pay a living wage..
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Apr 20, 2014 - 10:55am PT
Thanks for the grey water link. I've been known to put in an honest day's work for pay... although I could only do it Tues and it would have to be fairly close to Sac.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Apr 20, 2014 - 11:33am PT
Mr Milktoast writes:

"The much huffed 'wet april' is a dud."



That's OK. Summer's coming. Summer's our new rainy season.
Jim Clipper

climber
from: forests to tree farms
Apr 20, 2014 - 01:17pm PT
Thanks Wes. Unfortunately, work is in Santa Cruz. Anyone got any links or experience with cisterns? What about a septic tank? It seems like a couple of rain barrels won't really cut it in the long run.

Also, we may be re-modeling. Since the roof, gutters, and french drain, (which currently pumps to the curb), will be replaced, I wonder if we can get a cistern going.

Got a lead on a hand pump? I never could mantle, if i cut the handle in half ... gotta work, good day all
Ricky D

Trad climber
Sierra Westside
Apr 24, 2014 - 06:42pm PT
Pee in the Aquaduct - that will show them in LA when their lawn turns yellow - they'll blame the dog and June Lakers will be scott free hee hee!

klk

Trad climber
cali
Apr 24, 2014 - 07:00pm PT
no cali politician is going to touch groundwater regulation.

yer an idiot. fran pavley is introducing a groundwater reg bill. pretty much a sign of the apocalypse.

http://blogs.kqed.org/science/2014/04/22/california-edging-closer-to-regulating-groundwater-for-the-first-time/

http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml;jsessionid=ea486a97d84365f59b5baefd0f56?bill_id=201320140SB1168
nita

Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
Apr 26, 2014 - 11:31am PT
Yesterday in Chico..it rained holy buckets ...Every little bit of precip helps.
Looking purdy in Yosemite.
Lassen looking good too...
John M

climber
Apr 26, 2014 - 01:33pm PT
this is going to help the flowers go off in May..

we got about an 1.25 inches also plus it snow a couple of inches..
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