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WBraun
climber
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Jul 17, 2009 - 04:14pm PT
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Hahahahaha LOL
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Jul 17, 2009 - 04:23pm PT
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"Perhaps you need to explore some industrial strength saviors."
Or just take a shorter trip to the dark side. Dick Cheney will take your soul anytime in exchange for Haliburton stock and some seats on lucrative corporate boards.
Peace
Karl
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Jul 17, 2009 - 05:57pm PT
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he just left chicago.
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426
Sport climber
Buzzard Point, TN
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Jul 17, 2009 - 05:59pm PT
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which train and which direction....
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factortwo
Social climber
Placerville, ca
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Jul 17, 2009 - 08:00pm PT
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Is there an option whereby I might pay for my own sins?
I think the idea of having someone else pay for my sins is the height of immorality, god's son or anyone. I am a pretty good person so the tab really shouldn't be that stiff.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Jul 17, 2009 - 08:01pm PT
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"on his way to new orleans" so I'd guess south.
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cintune
climber
the Moon and Antarctica
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Jul 17, 2009 - 08:02pm PT
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You might not see him in person.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Jul 17, 2009 - 08:08pm PT
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Can't you buy a stairway to heaven™?
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Captain...or Skully
Social climber
way, WAY out there....(OMG)
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Jul 18, 2009 - 12:02am PT
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Hey, I never even asked to be here at all.....There I was, one with the Universe, and then POW! Now I'm here.
Doin' the best I can over here, Boss.
Can I go now?
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Jul 18, 2009 - 12:06am PT
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Dr. F as much as I think you are a cool dude....yo never thought an unkind thought or were jealous or slammed someone bitd ? I know I have.....lynne
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Jul 18, 2009 - 12:14am PT
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So, Dr. F, If I was unfaithful to my husband or wife, but did not believe it was important it was not ....even tho it broke their heart ?
Edit: yes Sir, Skully...."above all, mind your heart" per Bible. Learned that a long time ago after some serious errors. I still guard my heart. Cheers, Sir Skully :D lynne
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Captain...or Skully
Social climber
way, WAY out there....(OMG)
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Jul 18, 2009 - 12:15am PT
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How is YOUR heart?
Mind it well.
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dfrost7
Social climber
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Jul 18, 2009 - 12:16am PT
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Dr. F. What do you think "sin" means?
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apogee
climber
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Jul 18, 2009 - 12:32am PT
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Hoo-boy, and they call the 'Why are the republicans so wrong about everything' thread whacked...
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Jul 18, 2009 - 12:32am PT
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"May my spoken and unspoken thoughts be good to you God, my Rock...." Psalm 20:14
I need to get one of those Bible books and note the number of times it talks of Rocks..... God loves rocks and mountains and people and all of the outdoors. Smiles and Peace and remembering Mr. Bachar a friend, truly a real friend. Lynnie
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Jul 18, 2009 - 12:35am PT
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I was just wondering if he'll be bringing pancakes this time?
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dfrost7
Social climber
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Jul 18, 2009 - 01:15am PT
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Dr. F, on sin.
Most of what you mention is dogma from the religious groups that Jesus, himself, came to expose.
Sin is:
"The Greek word hamartia (ἁμαρτία) is usually translated as sin in the New Testament. In Classical Greek, it means "to miss the mark" or "to miss the target" which was also used in Old English archery. In Koine Greek, which was spoken in the time of the New Testament, however, this translation is not adequate." (sorry this is from Wik, I can get it from a better reference, as well. It was included with fair accuracy).
I run a red light. In my thinking, I don't feel guilt. It's just a red light. I have them other places and If I go in front of one, who cares. There are laws, whether we acknowledge "right" or "wrong" doesn't change the laws.
You shall not steal. Natural law, the laws of nature (not the "Nature" posting on ST) exist. Whether you think they should or not, they do. Sin is missing the mark. It's doing something in the "wrong" column - breaking the laws of God. Whether you agree with it or not.
Bunches of faith. It doesn't take bunches of faith to not believe in God. It takes a lack of wisdom. I don't believe atheists don't believe in God. I believe (the intelligent ones) they don't know, more likely, don't want to deal with God. Therefore, choose to either dismiss, ridicule, say God is dead, etc.
None of this changes that God is love, and delivers this love to you every single day. "The earth declares the glory of God", "I am fearfully and wonderfully made". Contemplate the elegant intricacy of our bodies and systems, how strong and fragile. God doesn't need my defense, for some reason, people just struggle with God, mostly, because if God exists, then, you are not boss of the universe.
I'm sure you've already heard someone ask this: Have you been everywhere in the universe - do you know everything there is to know? Then how could any, truly thinking, intelligent, person claim, absolutely, there is no God? In your life there is a god.
Everyone has their god. It might be yourself.
We think the people of times past, like 1, 2 thousand years ago were more primitive. I don't agree.
For example, I'm an artist/painter. The knowledge of painting and draftsmanship only four hundred years ago, only a little more than a hundred years ago, was vastly deeper than anything we know now. The best academic, figurative painters today will tell you this.
Sin is missing the mark. Anyone who says they have not missed the mark in not telling the truth. What is guilt? Guilt is not a negative "feeling", it is a fact. Either you have or not. Period.
The big institutional religions have done a good job of selling it as an emotion. Guilt is not an emotion, it is a legal term.
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dfrost7
Social climber
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Jul 18, 2009 - 01:24am PT
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I know, Toast? I never understand why they say Jesus when all the images look different. ??? Why they don't say I have this toast that looks like a guys face? I don't get the toast and other food things. Is one of those a pizza? A California roll? Toast or tortillas. I don't get it.
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AndyG
climber
San Diego, CA
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Jul 18, 2009 - 01:36am PT
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Moral inferiors are instantly recognizable if the subject of atheism comes up in conversation - they will say they don't understand how atheists can be moral people if they do not believe in god. This proves the inferior morals of these people - they admit they themselves have no inner moral compass and must rely on reminders written down or relayed each sunday.
I did not write that. I read it somewhere. But I like it.
Andy
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Captain...or Skully
Social climber
way, WAY out there....(OMG)
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Jul 18, 2009 - 01:38am PT
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TOAST?
I like toast......rye is PDG.
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