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blahblah
Gym climber
Boulder
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They already reversed precedent and thrown out the first half of the 2nd amendment; the part that says "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State,"
Oddly, Kavanaugh felt free to discuss his opinion on gun control/rights, while on other issues declaring he really couldn't say much
Nice rant, gotta love the passion even if it's misguided.
But one question on the above quote: what precedent was reversed?
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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More importantly will Trump be exonerated from his crimes because he's not mentlly fit for public office and will kavanaugh be the swing vote for banning kneelings during the national anthem...?
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Contractor
Boulder climber
CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 7, 2018 - 07:44am PT
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The Skull and Bones, Federalists, the Heritage boys...you know, the white Protestant men that run this country have cut a deal with Trump to offer protection for getting their boy Brett.
Lord know Trump repulses them but the thought of a Government by "the people" really scares the sh!t out of them.
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Contractor
Boulder climber
CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 7, 2018 - 08:18am PT
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Wow, that song covers a lot of ground!
Add to the vocable lexicon of Trump;
Anonymish
a•non•y•mish
Noun- meaning unknown
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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Here are some ways that Republican leadership under Trump is Socialist, Marxist and Communist:
 Autocratic leader is under the control of Vladimir Putin and the Kremlin
Autocratic leader is an incompetent puppet who gained the office with the illegal assistance of Russia
Legislators in power won't oppose the autocratic puppet; they're afraid of him
GOP Senators met with Russian leaders in Moscow, to thank them for interfering in the 2016 election
Command economy: puppet leader unilaterally imposes arbitrary taxes on imported goods; shortages and higher prices for consumers
Command economy: puppet leader pays out billions in government welfare to loyal comrades; political opponents get nothing
Command economy: increased military spending to intimidate other nations; education and health care spending is cut
Command economy: puppet leader reduces taxes for wealthy loyalists; standard of living for most people declines
Foreign policy is to antagonize western democracies, and embrace totalitarian dictatorships
Foreign policy includes puppet leader wanting to invade other countries and assassinate foreign leaders
Foreign policy is to disrupt and degrade western civilization, to bring it down to the dysfunctional level of Russia
Puppet leader has a secretive administration
Puppet leader tears up presidential documents that he is required, by law, to preserve
Puppet leader has an official communication policy of denials, concealment and deception
Puppet leader demonizes free and independent news sources; calls them "the enemy of the people"; wants to shut them down
Puppet leader embraces fictional propaganda "news" sources that are loyal to himself
Puppet leader and fictional propaganda channels create an echo chamber of lies, disinformation and deception
Puppet leader states that reality does not exist, except as he decrees it to be
Puppet leader demonizes Department of Justice, laws and the courts
Puppet leader wants to stop prosecution of crimes committed by political loyalists
Puppet leader wants to arbitrarily imprison political opponents
Puppet leader abuses his power to pardon political allies
Puppet leader destroys careers of political opponents
Puppet leader demonizes an investigation into his secret connections to Putin and the Kremlin; wants to shut it down
Puppet leader wants to enact new laws to make it illegal to print books about his administration
Puppet leader wants protesting and public dissent to be illegal
Puppet leader's loyal comrades loot the treasury, conduct insider trading and commit other financial crimes
Puppet leader's hotel hosts foreign leaders seeking to curry favor
Puppet leader acknowledges no separation between his financial interests and the presidency
Puppet leader orders the end of environmental protection laws
Puppet leader gives control of protected public lands to loyal private interests
Puppet leader wants the country to be reliant on near-obsolete, 100-year old energy technology
Puppet leader treats people as fungible commodities; children stolen and sold for adoption
Puppet leader wants to build a Berlin Wall patrolled by armed guards and weaponized drones
Puppet leader wants to install an official state religion; all others forbidden from entering country
Puppet leader wants to ethnically cleanse the country of non-white immigrants
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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blah: Yes, Kavanaugh should make an excellent Justice.
I wouldn't go that far. I'm just hoping it's possible that he turns into a "turncoat" and not another corporate stooge.
This might be a good time to post a reminder of why Trump won.
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Trouble is brewing. Trump is a symptom, not the cause.
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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I'm just hoping it's possible that he turns into a "turncoat" and not another corporate stooge.
How'd that pipe dream work out for you, when Bush appointed John Roberts?
They're worse than they appear during confirmation hearings. They intentionally present themselves as being reasonable, in order to fraudulently gain public trust and acceptance. Then, they revert to what they really are: puppets of corporations and rich people.
Trump didn't pick Kavanaugh. Trump is clueless. Kavanaugh was picked for Trump.
If recent history is any guide to the future, the Supreme Court will allow corporations to vote in political elections: one vote for every share of stock.
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blahblah
Gym climber
Boulder
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If recent history is any guide to the future, the Supreme Court will allow corporations to vote in political elections: one vote for every share of stock.
Hmm, I think the right analogy would be one vote for every dollar of income tax paid (by any "person," which could be a human being or other legal entity). An interesting idea . . .
As to Roberts, I know some of the posters here don't like his "balls and strikes" analogy (which admittedly is a bit simplistic, but it's an attempt to explain a general concept in an easy-to-understand soundbite).
But all in all I'd think most people would say he's a very good chief justice, even if you don't love they way he typically votes.
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hooblie
climber
from out where the anecdotes roam
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amen to brother barry in the pulpit
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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I know these threads are mostly venting and bashing, but here is a serious and remarkably damning article about the potential new Supreme Court Justice (Kavanaugh):
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/09/judge-brett-kavanaugh-should-be-impeached-for-lying-during-his-confirmation-hearings.html
Black and white evidence of lying under oath to obtain his bench in federal court, the same offense for which he was leading efforts to get Clinton impeached. Aside from the public statements of this article by a person directly involved in the incident, there should be written corroboratory evidence with the recent email releases directly conflicting his earlier statements under oath.
#MAGA
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Splater
climber
Grey Matter
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Couch,
just because you found that some other lawyer supports him, doesn't change the fact that Kavanaugh was completely investigated, scrutinized, litmus tested, and chosen in private by the right wing elitist cabal. Anyone who voluntarily worked for years for ken starr's witchhunt will not be a fair justice. These hearings are just for show. The wishes of the majority of this country will be ignored
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August West
Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
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but when there's a vacancy to be appointed by Republican president and senate, what would anyone expect?
Well, I would expect Mitch McConnell to take into account the fact that the president may be within a year of being impeached/resigning. Therefore, the senate should conduct no confirmation hearings until after voters get a chance to weigh in by electing a new president.
Seems reasonable, doesn't it?
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Splater
climber
Grey Matter
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NutAgain,
Great article!
Lock him up! (Kavanaugh)
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Lituya
Mountain climber
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Elections have consequences. You all should have nominated Uncle Joe.
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Treason was committed in Helsinki
I've got a plan though vote for the pussy grabber 'n thiefalways squared up, riding high on the wave just under the crest, just about tube'd, tucked in the sweet spot,letting the roll flow, going with it
the way I surf life
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Elections have consequences. You all should have nominated Uncle Joe.
Trump won by giving lip service to the middle and working classes. Sanders actually cares, that's the difference.
The torches and pitchforks are coming. Don't take my word for it.
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Trump won
That's what matters.
As the sitting President, he has the authority to nominate judicial candidates. Brett Kavanaugh will be the next Supreme Court Justice.
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blahblah
Gym climber
Boulder
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Well, I would expect Mitch McConnell to take into account the fact that the president may be within a year of being impeached/resigning. Therefore, the senate should conduct no confirmation hearings until after voters get a chance to weigh in by electing a new president.
Seems reasonable, doesn't it?
Sorry, no.
Even if Trump were to be impeached, it's not as if there would be another election before 2020, Mike Pence would simply ascend to the presidency.
The reason for McConnell's delaying action after the untimely demise of Scalia was that the American people would soon be able to make their voices heard in a presidential election. That won't happen before 2020 under any circumstances, so no reason dilly dally now, need to move this along promptly so Kav can get up up to speed and to work.
Anyway, even if you don't like Kav, you should appreciate that we're going to enter an era where we have something like a Dream Team on SCOTUS with Kav, Gorsuch, Alito, and Thomas and Roberts. Even if you don't like them, you just gotta sit back and acknowledge that you're going to see something special.
Or with another basketball analogy, it's gonna be like the Globetrotters versus the Generals with poor ol' Ginsburg etc. coming up short every night--not really competitive but good for some laughs :)
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Contractor
Boulder climber
CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 7, 2018 - 12:29pm PT
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I'm glad to see Ed T, Lituya and Blah sticking it under trying circumstances. A thread like this gives us all an opportunity to debate politically charged topics in a semi anonymish environment while remaining physically benign.
The "I know where you live" guys are mostly gone.
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