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mtnyoung
Trad climber
Twain Harte, California
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Nov 17, 2016 - 08:28pm PT
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Bob D'A, I saw your post and I'm tracking this one (foreign policy is one of the two issues I care most about).
I could definitely live with Romney as Secretary of State.
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mtnyoung
Trad climber
Twain Harte, California
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Nov 17, 2016 - 08:38pm PT
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Thanks Anders. I may have a new favorite: CUMBERWORLD
Someone who is so useless, they just serve to take up space.
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John M
climber
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Nov 17, 2016 - 08:38pm PT
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^^^^^
5. CLIMBERWORLD
Also called a climberground—someone who is so useless, they just serve to take up space.
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mtnyoung
Trad climber
Twain Harte, California
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Nov 17, 2016 - 08:40pm PT
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And thanks to the several posters who are focused on the conflict of interest trend. I'm reading what you're writing.
This is a very big and very worrisome issue.
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John M
climber
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Nov 17, 2016 - 09:32pm PT
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my boy?
I Didn't vote for Trump.
I voted for Hillary.. I live and vote in California.
So no.. Trump is not my boy.
I warned you about Hillary. All that you could do was insult anyone who wasn't huuugely on Hillary's team. You supported Hillary. Low turn out for Hillary is on you. Trump is all yours man.
How many times did you say Hillary was going to be a landslide over Trump? Over and over and over, drowning out anyone who disagreed with you.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Nov 17, 2016 - 09:45pm PT
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I would rather avoid the tit to tat but I have to point out that 10b wrote this and Jody responded below. 10b made no personal attack. Jody has done the same to me but he sobered up and deleted the post. I am not offended but it really poisons the discussion. There is some great discussion in this thread, would be nice to see the personal attacks eliminated.
Jody, I have yet to see you write anything positive about a black person.
Furthermore, you supported Ted Cruz. Ted Cruz is a known homophobe.he has associated with a Texas preacher who advocates for the killing of gays. So spare me your bullsh#t
Jody
climber
Occupied Territory
Nov 6, 2016 - 09:53pm PT
10b, you are a moron...like I said, you libtards only see what you want to see...
Your crap isn't even worth a response, it is just regurgitated libtard talking points.
Idiot.
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mtnyoung
Trad climber
Twain Harte, California
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Nov 17, 2016 - 09:52pm PT
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No surprise to see John M(ilquetoast) and DMT falling in line.
Weaklings. Always the first to go.
Huh? What am I missing?
Personal falling out?
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John M
climber
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Nov 17, 2016 - 09:52pm PT
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Believe what you want man. But Hillary lost and you didn't see it coming. What does that say about you?
Oh.. but Hillary is the best thing since sliced bread. I Guess america didn't want sliced bread. who could have seen that coming? Well, certainly not crankster.
So what will you do? The same thing as Hillary is doing. Blaming everyone but herself. Even Bill told her she was making mistakes. Huuuuge Mistakes.
Hillary has poor leadership skills. Bill would have ate Comey alive when he sent that last letter about the emails. But instead of looking at her poor leadership skills, people like you will blame Comey. The problem is, there are problems like that in every election.
Hillary couldn't beat Trump.. how pathetic is that?
And you call me naive.
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John M
climber
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Nov 17, 2016 - 10:03pm PT
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mtnyoung.
I have been saying for over a year that Hillary was a poor choice. Crankster spent most of that time insulting me and anyone else who had concerns. He would slam threads with comments about Hillary winning by a landslide, over and over. It made it difficult to talk about the issues. Thats when Werner started calling him a crankloon.
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John M
climber
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Nov 17, 2016 - 10:04pm PT
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Crankster, I'm not the only one here who saw issues. Most just gave up trying to talk about it.
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John M
climber
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Nov 17, 2016 - 10:14pm PT
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Again.. you are wrong. I did not care that much for Bernie, but thought he was a better choice then Hillary. My problem from the beginning was the focus on Hillary early on before there was even one primary. There was no discussion. Only.. Hillary Hillary Hillary. In a climate like that, its impossible for someone the system hasn't focused on to come out.
And we will likely do it again with Bernie. And probably lose.
My prediction.
Trump will be impeached.
Pence will be President.
Next election the repubs run an electable human and will beat Bernie because of his problems with being seen as being a socialist. It doesn't matter if I believe he is a socialist. It matters whether you can convince the country he isn't a socialist. Just as it didn't matter whether I believe the emails were a sign that Hillary was a bad leader or not. What mattered is what the country believed. She smirks at people. that enraged the conservatives. If she could have just been reasonable, she could have won. Deplorables was a huge mistake.
Will I be right. who knows. I certainly don't. I just know a problem when I see it. Hillary was a problem. Focusing in too early on one person is also a mistake.
If you don't learn from the past, you are destined to repeat it.
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Risk
Mountain climber
Olympia, WA
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Nov 17, 2016 - 10:16pm PT
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“It’s exactly the kind of foreign entanglements our laws are designed to prevent” Seems we need to change the laws to permit such. How can a Great Administration hire "qualified" men any other way?
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John M
climber
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Nov 17, 2016 - 10:23pm PT
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Its not a given that Pence will be the next candidate. It depends on how well he does. He has problems.
the republicans have serious issues in their party. Its difficult to know if they will be able to overcome them. But they have in the past and could still find someone like Romney. Someone like Romney would crush Bernie, who will be 80 years old in the next election.
Under rating the republicans is also a big mistake.
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Splater
climber
Grey Matter
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Nov 17, 2016 - 11:40pm PT
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from Yahoo news
Election won't change Ford's plans; still moving some production to Mexico
Although President-elect Donald Trump has repeatedly criticized Ford Motor Co. for its plans to move more production to Mexico, CEO Mark Fields said in an interview Tuesday that the automaker will proceed with its plan to move Focus car production from Michigan to a new plant in Mexico by 2018. He stressed that no jobs would be lost, since the Michigan plant will make two other vehicles. Although Trump has threatened increased tariffs to quell exporting production, Fields also warned that a tariff would affect the entire industry — and autoworkers' profit-sharing checks — since many companies sell Mexican- and Canadian-made vehicles or parts.
During the bitter campaign for the White House, Trump criticized American companies for relocating production abroad. Computer giant Apple has been one of his main targets. Ford in early April unveiled a $1.6 billion investment in a new facility in Mexico, where the workforce is very cheap compared to what it would cost in the United States. The plant will be operational in 2018.
more
http://fortune.com/2016/11/15/ford-move-mexico-trump/
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Bruce Morris
Trad climber
Belmont, California
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Nov 18, 2016 - 01:38am PT
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Just from glancing at that long list of alleged instances of sexual misconduct in the wiki link, Dr. Sprock, it seems to me there's going to be some trouble in the future for President Trump that's not going to just disappear. This should be more fun to watch than the Watergate hearings; that is, unless Trump goes and starts a nuclear war.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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Nov 18, 2016 - 02:15am PT
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Crankster, you're a good egg. Passionate and considerate.
Don't let these detractors here, who every so often descend to WB's
level, despirit you. Keep the charge, man.
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Obama and Merkel, joint press conference...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoFgnQQzqYU
It's hard to imagine Trump in this venue with these ideas and thoughts.
Maybe I'll be proven wrong, we can hope.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Nov 18, 2016 - 02:48am PT
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The world is going to miss Obama, make no mistake. Here's to the Clown in Chief!!
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