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EdwardT
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Retired
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Ya think???
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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Ralph Peters sounds like a total pussy when you stack him up against Gen. Curtis LeMay.
I think there are many times when it would be most efficient to use nuclear weapons.
However, the public opinion in this country and throughout the world throw up their hands in horror when you mention nuclear weapons, just because of the propaganda that's been fed to them. Gen. Curtis LeMay
( I think the horror had a little to do with the mass destruction of two Japanese cities, and maybe that the Soviets had them, too)
Plus, LeMay had that racism thing going for him the Donald finds so appealing.
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Lorenzo, I remember when LeMay was mentioned as a presidential candidate. Some speculated that his campaign slogan could be "Bombs Away with Curt LeMay."
John
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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He was the vice presidential candidate in George Wallace's 1968 presidential campaign.
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HighDesertDJ
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 7, 2015 - 12:30pm PT
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That's a sweet dildo.
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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I remember that year's campaign, but he was mentioned as a Presidential nominee in early 1964, before Goldwater sewed up the nomination. The Republican nomination was up in the air that year until the California primary in June of 1964. I liked that pace a whole lot more than I like the pace currently, which seems to have nominations decided by mid-April at the latest.
The 1966 campaign in California was a lot more fun, with Wolfman Jack's campaign for Governor: "Don't vote left. Don't vote right. Vote wrong! Wolfman Jack for Governor."
John
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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Donald J. Trump called on Monday for the United States to bar all Muslims from entering the country until the nation’s leaders can “figure out what is going on,” an extraordinary escalation of his harsh rhetoric aimed at members of the Islamic faith in the aftermath of the terrorist attacks in Paris and San Bernardino, Calif.
“Without looking at the various polling data, it is obvious to anybody the hatred is beyond comprehension. Where this hatred comes from and why we will have to determine,” said Mr. Trump, the leading Republican candidate for his party’s 2016 presidential nomination.
“Until we are able to determine and understand this problem and the dangerous threat it poses, our country cannot be the victims of horrendous attacks by people that believe only in jihad, and have no sense of reason or respect for human life,” he said.
Um, Donald....maybe your rhetoric has something to do with whatever hatred you perceive.
Great plan, not withstanding that one of the shooters was born here, there is no legal statute that allows banning people by religion, and the constitution bars any laws regarding free exercise of religion ( or lack of it) being enacted.
Third Article:
Congress shall make no law establishing religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, nor shall the rights of Conscience be infringed.
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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That would depend on the outcome of the next election.
It could be a shining moment in our history.
(Looking at Argentina Real Estate sites just in case)
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Norton
Social climber
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Well it sure looks like it is going to be Trump vs Clinton
and if so
a Landslide victory for Hillary Clinton and all the way down ticket Democrats
The Dems take back the US Senate, gain some seats in the House and Hillary
get 7-10 million more votes than Trump and wins by well over 100 Electoral Votes
and the Republicans learn absolutely nothing from it
never understanding that their base of angry old white males are dying off
and the new America of multi ethnic and much more educated population that
sees through their lies, racism and hate speech insures that we will not see a
Republican President again in our lifetimes, their days in the sun are over
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Reeotch
climber
4 Corners Area
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[Click to View YouTube Video]
I'm not islamophobic.
I am afraid of people who want the death penalty for such things as apostasy, homosexuality, and adultry.
I want to know if my neighbors believe this sort of stuff.
If they believe that "God's Law" supersedes the laws of men.
The human race needs to grow out of superstitions, especially dangerous ones.
Edit: I also think Norton's analysis is spot on . . .
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Norton
Social climber
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Islam IS as peaceful a religion as Christianity
but extreme, radical Islam is not, and the world WILL ultimately defeat it
more and more nations are joining in together now to crush ISIS and its kind
Christianity during the butchering in god's name Crusades is the today's ISIS
Christians eventually grew up and stopped that sh!t
ISIS and its followers won't grow up, they have to be killed
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WBraun
climber
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If they believe that "God's Law" supersedes the laws of men.
The human race needs to grow out of superstitions, especially dangerous ones.
Gods law supersedes all the laws of mankind.
It's guaranteed YOU (life) will be kicked of your material body when your allotted breathes are finished (death).
There's no escape ......
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Reeotch
climber
4 Corners Area
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Norton, I'd like to hear you respond to some of Mr. Watson's arguements.
Please view this clip first.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e9b_1421092375
^^^^Moderate Muslims supporting the death penalty for the 3 things I mentioned above.
Scary.
Happens all the time in Saudi Arabia, but they are our crack dealer, so we don't say anything . . .
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dirtbag
climber
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never understanding that their base of angry old white males are dying off
I think a lot of them understand this dilemma.
The problem is that if they embrace diversity they will be divided into a Conservative party that is pro-immigration and a Conservative party that opposes it (I.e., angry old white guys). Thats basically trump's threat this election if he deems the party to be acting unfairly and abandons it for a third party run. The vote would be split.
In the short run, i.e., the next several election cycles, I really don't know how they can walk out of the corner they have painted themselves into. They angry white guy base seems to be in no mood to compromise.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Lorenzo, it is troubling that you cannot even quote the Constitution correctly!
Amendment I (1): Freedom of religion, speech, and the press; rights of assembly and petition
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;
or abridging the freedom of speech,
or of the press,
or the right of the people peaceably to assemble,
and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
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Norton
Social climber
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Reeotch
I viewed the video of the "moderate" Muslims saying they support stoning-adultery
I get your point, but here is mine
there are some 1.5 BILLION Muslims world wide that emphatically do NOT "support" the extreme parts of the Koran, their Bible
the Muslims in the video can collectively be in a peer group and say they do but in
fact their actions speak otherwise, ie - they know damn well adultery is going on
and no one is getting stoned for it in Norway or here in the US, in fact there are
only a handful of places like Saudi Arabia, and some others that put in practice
my point is that one and half billion Muslims do not put into the practice the extreme parts of the Koran just as Christians no longer rape, murder stone and enslave
as commanded to do so in the Bible
IF the point you are trying to make is that "all" Muslims or even a majority should be feared as terrorists then you are in a very small group that buys that notion
or maybe that is not your point?
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Reeotch
climber
4 Corners Area
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Ok lets talk about hate vs. tolerance (or intolerance)
I believe there some beliefs that are not compatible with American society. I don't know enough to paint all muslims with that brush.
It is the specific little dictums from this and other religions (such as mormonism) that scare me. Many of these beliefs are not publicized very much because they know it is unacceptable in the USA.
Why do we allow those disgusting FLDS pedophile polygamists in Colorado City to continue to enslave and rape underage girls?
Religious tolerance?
I would welcome any muslims who truly want to come here and become Muslim Americans, but we don't need them to come here and stay seperate from the rest of society. That is what is happening in Europe right now. They're going to end up in Islamic ghettos.
In Sweeden now there is an epidemic of gang rape of girls carried out by gangs of imigrants who are used to getting away with such behavior in their home countries.
We have different standards of behavior.
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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Dick Cheney just weighed in on Trumps idea to ban Muslims.
He basically said it was un-American, that all sorts of people came here for religious freedom.
Then, as an example, he cited his own family.
He said they were Puritans and came here before anybody was here.
Close....so close....
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