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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Oregon
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Jan 17, 2015 - 07:40pm PT
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Sharia for murder Seems to function about the same in Texas.
Texas executions:
Richard Vasquez Murder of his girlfriend's 4-year-old dauther. His execution, scheduled for 15 January, has been rescheduled for 23 April because the governor planned to be out of the state on 15 January.
Arnold Prieto Robbery and murder of three people in their home. Scheduled for 21 January.
Garcia White Murder of three women in their home. Scheduled for 28 January.
I guess the King wasn't out of town.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Jan 18, 2015 - 01:58am PT
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Saudi clerics have been the problem for a long time. They're just really good at exporting.....
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Jan 18, 2015 - 08:47am PT
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January 18, 2015: Once again Islamic terrorists are using more women as suicide bombers. On December 10th three teenage girls rigged with suicide bomb vests walked into a crowded market in northern Nigeria. Two of the girls set off their explosives but the third, a 13 year old, did not and someone soon noticed the explosive vest she discarded as she fled and alerted the police who soon found her. By the end of the month she had appeared in public and repeated what she told the police. The girl had been asked by her father if she wanted to go to paradise. She said yes and then he took her to a local cleric who asked if she was willing to commit suicide to get to paradise. She said no and was threatened with being buried alive if she did not agree to do the suicide bombing. The girl was lucky, because in similar situations Islamic terrorists have rigged their suicide bombers with explosives detonated by remote control and then sent them on the mission accompanied by an armed (with a pistol) minder (sometimes another woman) and warned that if she did not go where told she would be shot and not die a martyr (and go to hell).
http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htterr/20150118.aspx
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/meet-the-honor-brigade-an-organized-campaign-to-silence-critics-of-islam/2015/01/16/0b002e5a-9aaf-11e4-a7ee-526210d665b4_story.html
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Argon
climber
North Bay, CA
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Jan 18, 2015 - 10:56am PT
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The Washington Post article above is well worth reading. The campaign to silence the critics of Islam has been effective. Look at commenters here equating Islamic justice with Texas' death penalty. The Burmese woman beheaded in Saudi Arabia was likely innocent - her husband probably committed the crime. Her trial was a sham. It took three sword blows to sever her head. How many people has Texas executed for apostasy?
Yes there has been some tepid condemnation of the Paris attacks from a few Muslim outlets. But those brave commenters and cartoonists are walking on eggshells. The anti Charlie Hebdo riots have been far more numerous and violent. The head of Al Jazeera America made it known that he was NOT Charlie.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Jan 18, 2015 - 12:50pm PT
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It was not the Charlie Hebdo cartoonists, who specialized in offending all religions, who made their Mohammed cartoons into a symbol. It was their Muslim enemies who did it by killing them. It is intellectually dishonest for Muslims to create martyrs and then complain about their martyrdom.
Blasphemy against Christianity and Judaism fizzles because the lack of a violent response makes those responsible seem like bullies. Instead of revealing flaws in those religions, works like Piss Christ or Monster Mohel reveal the flaws in their makers.Their attempts at blasphemy prove self-destructive.
Muslim violence against the Mohammed cartoons however turns them into the bullies. The Hebdo cartoons did no damage to Christianity or Judaism. They did a great deal of damage to Islam, not because they were well done, but because Islam is shot through with violent anger and insecurity.
The spiritual power of religion balances between violence and non-violence. Most religions believe that there is a time to fight, but only Islam believes in violence as the first and final religious solution.
Mohammed cartoons exist because of the Islamic inability to cope with a non-theocratic society.
http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2015/01/the-importance-of-blasphemy.html
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Oregon
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Jan 18, 2015 - 02:11pm PT
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The spiritual power of religion balances between violence and non-violence. Most religions believe that there is a time to fight, but only Islam believes in violence as the first and final religious solution.
this is clearly somebody who has never actually read the Quran.
As I read it, it says the opposite.
"Invite to the Way of your Lord (i.e. Islam) with wisdom (i.e. with the Divine Revelation and the Qur’an) and fair preaching, and argue with them in a way that is better. Truly, your Lord knows best who has gone astray from His Path, and He is the Best Aware of those who are guided." [Quran 16:125]
This is echoed in the last sermon of the prophet when he tell his flock they are only better than others if their belief in God is stronger- that Arab is no better than non Arab and the White is not better than black.
It is rather the Christians who killed for conversion in the crusades and conquest of the new world, and the Old Testament God who exhorts to kill "everything that breaths "of the unbelievers.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Jan 18, 2015 - 03:17pm PT
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this is clearly somebody who has never actually read the Quran.
As I read it, it says the opposite.
I've read it.
Cover to cover.
Almost every sura collapses into a spastic aside to "kill the polythesists, Jews etc." at some point or another. These usually singular verses also seem to be almost randomly inserted as if the work of someone suffering from a mental illness.
Why don't you enlighten all of us on the concept of taqiyya?
There's a a uniquely Muslim concept for ya.
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Oregon
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Jan 18, 2015 - 04:39pm PT
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You are full of crap. There is more hate for non believers in the Bible.
Here's Deuteronomy 20:16
"However, in the cities of the nations the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes."
Joshua 1:18
"Whosoever he be that doth rebel against thy commandment, and will not hearken unto thy words in all that thou commandest him, he shall be put to death.
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Your turn.
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Jan 18, 2015 - 04:45pm PT
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Yes we get it, they're ALL silly books filled with nonsense, sometimes violent nonsense.
The point is the vast majority of people who need or choose to believe in such mythologies are NOT violent.
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Oregon
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Jan 18, 2015 - 06:32pm PT
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Is this an oil industry question or a where do your taxes go question?
I feel like I should be ending the post with Stoopid Americans, but I'll leave that to Werner.
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Chugach
Trad climber
Vermont
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 26, 2015 - 11:17am PT
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Jan 18, 2015 - 05:07pm PT
If you help pay for the knife that spills the blood do you not share in the proceeds?
DMT
WTF does that mean?
If you pet the snake which bites the horse and bucks the rider who lands on the baby, do you share in the carrots?
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Oregon
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Jan 26, 2015 - 04:11pm PT
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^^^. +1
Menchem Begin blew up the King David Hotel.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Jan 26, 2015 - 04:13pm PT
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That's a ballsy comment Timid!!
You're the man. Justin and I were just talking about how awesome it was to see the Dweez with you!
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