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HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Sep 18, 2014 - 06:55pm PT
Some of the statistics are mind boggling
From the latest CalFire report (6:00 PM)
73,184 acres - 10% contained
So now it's about 1/4 the size of the Rim Fire last year. Which took over a month to put out.
12,000 single residences and 9,000 other minor structures
So far no residences lost. That's pretty amazing.

Current info
Total personal 3842
Fire engines: 327
Fire crews: 99
Helicopters: 15
Dozers: 49 !! That's one dozer for every 2 crews.
Water tenders: 80!!

The fire nearly tripled in size making a run to the northeast yesterday of over 10 miles up the Rubicon Canyon towards Hell Hole Reservoir. Spot fires were observed up to 3 miles ahead of the fire front and have moved into Placer County.

Ron I think it's going to be some time yet until your air clears.
Hows the pup? Been thinking about you and her.
HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Sep 18, 2014 - 07:03pm PT
Looks like they're holding the King Fire between Hell Hole and French Meadow reservoirs
john hansen

climber
Sep 18, 2014 - 07:16pm PT
Between the lakes is a good spot to stop it there, at least they have plenty of water for the choppers.
HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Sep 18, 2014 - 07:19pm PT
Ron.....glad to hear she's doing a bit better.

plenty of water for the choppers?
I wonder just how full those reservoirs are after 2 years of drought.
French Mdws reservoir has a capacity of 136000 acre feet.
As of last week it was down to 49000
Hell Hole capacity is 208000 acre feet, currently at 71000 af.
so they are both a bit over 1/3 capacity.


And none of the air assets can work at night. They're all back at their airfields getting serviced and the crews getting some shuteye till dawn tomorrow.

For the next 10 hours its strictly man against fire.

Ron, do you have any idea if they work the dozers at night?
dave729

Trad climber
Western America
Sep 18, 2014 - 07:22pm PT
I'd advise 'toughen up cupcake' but those living in the
dry Sierra forests got to be ready for this worst.
John M

climber
Sep 18, 2014 - 07:29pm PT
t's 8 miles from Alpine Meadows. Better stop it there between those lakes.

It ran 10 miles last night. But thankfully the winds have shifted direction, though I don't know for how long.
HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Sep 18, 2014 - 07:31pm PT
also it's getting up into the area of lots of granite and less dense forest cover.
Better fighting access and less fuel load.
HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Sep 18, 2014 - 07:46pm PT
speaking of reservoir levels.
Here are California's majors as of midnight last night.
The thin red line and red percentages are the historical averages for the same date.
Pyramid Lake is an interesting outlier.
With Castaic they form a pumped storage hydro-electric pair
At night water is pumped from Castaic up to Pyramid lake when the SoCal electricity demand is lowest. Then during the daytime, usually late afternoon, when the demand is highest the water is returned through the generators. So when things are going properly, Pyramid Lake will always be approximately full at midnight.
Courtright and Wishon are the only other pumped storage system in CA.
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Sep 18, 2014 - 07:51pm PT
King fire from South Lake Tahoe 20 mins ago.

North lake was engulfed in smoke...

Ht thanks for the fire links!
i'm gumby dammit

Sport climber
da ow
Sep 18, 2014 - 07:52pm PT
also it's getting up into the area of lots of granite and less dense forest cover.
Better fighting access and less fuel load.
sort of. the crystal range ends at hell hole so if there was a way for fire to enter the basin from the west, between those lakes would have to be it. the winds have definitely shifted though and the smoke is now dense in south lake too. if it's out of the basin and the wind shifts back to ENE that's no big deal. if it makes it into the north basin and the wind shifts to ENE it could be a big deal.
HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Sep 18, 2014 - 07:59pm PT
Big Mike
for a beautiful photo that's sure depressing!

gumby....ron....thanks for the info
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Sep 18, 2014 - 08:11pm PT
Ht yeah. Catch 22 eh? Those reds only come from fire clouds.. The sun filtered through the smoke looks amazing.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Sep 18, 2014 - 08:26pm PT
Ron...does it make you feel good murdering animals..? rj
Charlie D.

Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
Sep 18, 2014 - 08:32pm PT
King Fire from Lake Tahoe last night....

Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Sep 18, 2014 - 08:33pm PT
Rj, would you call native americans muderers then???
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Sep 18, 2014 - 08:37pm PT
Big Mike...Ron is a native American...Whens the squeege off with Cosmic...? rj
klk

Trad climber
cali
Sep 18, 2014 - 10:20pm PT
Courtright and Wishon are the only other pumped storage system in CA.

san luis reservoir is pumped storage.

Charlie D.

Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
Sep 19, 2014 - 04:08am PT
SMUD (Sacramento Municipal Utility District) is planning a pump storage project/reservor above the South Fork of the American River near Camino.
Norwegian

Trad climber
dancin on the tip of god's middle finger
Sep 19, 2014 - 04:36am PT
charlie we've a party of three
at the leap on saturday.

care to even the odds?
pinckbrown

Trad climber
Lake Tahoe, CA
Sep 19, 2014 - 07:58am PT
This is photo of my wife sifting through the ashes
after the Angora Fire. Massively changed our life.
We know how fast it can spread & how the fire creates
it's own weather/wind. We hope no one is hurt or
killed. You can rebuild. Oddly, our new home is sided
with Cedar from the Angora Fire.
Bob & Cheryl Pinckney.
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