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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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I'm 100% self-reliant... I go to the store and pick up all the food I want... all by myself!
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fluffy
Trad climber
Colorado
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Care to share your secret?
(((((((the terlet drains back into the well))))))))
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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when you are 100% self-reliant
Dug that thar well with me own two hands, I did!
With a shovel and pick axe I fabbed, with ore I mined, with me own bare hands!
You wouldn't know self-reliant if it bit you in your Uncle Sam provided paycheck.
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Reeotch
climber
4 Corners Area
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Yeah, I saw those pictures you posted the other day, DMT, the ones showing the paltry Sierra snowpack.
We're screwed. This is super serious.
We'll really start feeling it this fall when California harvests fail to come in, or come in with greatly reduced yeilds. Get ready to start spending a lot more of your paycheck on food. Expect the quality to go down, as well.
Time to get your garden in order . . .
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Right, it is a moot point... just because you acquire the fruits of another person's labor doesn't mean you aren't self-reliant. Just because you are provided food, water, weapons, protective gear, etc etc etc doesn't mean you aren't self-reliant. I dress myself (usually), drive myself to the store (sometimes), and buy my own groceries (using welfare checks)... totally self-reliant.
You actually have money ANtichristwes???
Yep, I inherited it all by myself... just like you and your well.
(actually, I don't have much. with a jew-ish gf, a frugal life-style, and a few sound investments I'm able to eek by on ~$5-10K a year. never once received welfare or unemployment benefits... although clearly I could)
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WBraun
climber
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Apr 10, 2014 - 10:33am PT
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I drank some Californian water yesterday.
It didn't feel or taste dry.
Therefore the drought must be a hoax .......
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couchmaster
climber
pdx
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Apr 15, 2014 - 11:02pm PT
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I'm pitying the small farmers who will get squeezed out of business. Folks like the Pistachio and pomegranate thieves will continue to pay off democrats to steal your water so as to be picking up the honest farmers land and equipment for a song at auction. (Here's a pro democrat/pro business look at the Resnicks to get you started if you are interested http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/10_47/b4204068352545.htm); Meantime, what it will mean to you in a Arizona State University study about to be released in a Wall Street journal article called "Attention Shoppers: Fruit and Vegetable Prices Are Rising ":
http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2014/04/15/attention-shoppers-fruit-and-vegetable-prices-rising/?mod=WSJ_hpp_MIDDLENexttoWhatsNewsFifth
Short version:
I suspect that the administration will now pull Fruits and veggies out of the inflation index so that they can continue to state that inflation isn't a problem. LOL. Right, and I have a bridge to sell you. Long version, there will be rumblings throughout the Ca economy and real estate market. {Some of which might not even be noticed if Silicon valley keeps kicking ass and picks up the slack I'll admit)
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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Apr 16, 2014 - 12:29am PT
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^^^
Hmm. I don't see arugula, tuscan kale, or boutique heirloom endive on that list. So I guess us Coastal Elite Limousine Libruls will be just fine.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Apr 16, 2014 - 12:36am PT
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I don't see rice anywhere on that list either. Strange, seeing as we've been told the state's water is mainly used to grow rice in the desert.
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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Apr 16, 2014 - 12:39am PT
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What is strange about an easily preservable global staple crop, most commonly sold in a dried state, not having the same pricing impacts as one commonly sold fresh?
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Apr 16, 2014 - 12:42am PT
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Remember the Great Rice Crisis Of '08?
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Apr 16, 2014 - 11:31am PT
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Really Chaz... growing rice in a desert? Which desert?
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klk
Trad climber
cali
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Apr 16, 2014 - 12:01pm PT
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if you read the drought operations plan, the most striking thing about it, is that it doesn't mention groundwater. (or rather, the phrase, "ground water," appears twice but only in asides.)
no cali politician is going to touch groundwater regulation. feinstein is in bed with resnicks and westlands almonds, the dem leadership is hoping to turn more valley districts purple or even blue, and the republican "fiscal conservatives" are demanding tax increases for new big govt projects to subsidize agribusiness.
the brown admin is trying to force the courts to step in on groundwater so that jerry doesn't have to make any difficult political choices. that was also his strategy in the first term, with prop 13. didn't work out well that time, either.
we've had 1 foot per year subsidence down below modesto. that was with water delivers and probably a thousand or so fewer wells.
what do you think subsidence is going to look like this year?
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couchmaster
climber
pdx
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Apr 16, 2014 - 12:41pm PT
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Well, you have some huge agribusiness to contend with and not just Resnicks slipping a few bucks into your politicians pockets. Cargill and Archer Danile Midlands are big players in the rice market in California. They own the water and the land. Which they can choose what to do with it, and rice is the game they choose.
Crop water needs ---> http://www.fao.org/docrep/s2022e/s2022e02.htm . Some rice info http://californiaagriculture.ucanr.edu/landingpage.cfm?article=ca.v047n03p5&fulltext=yes
And remember, if you are looking for boogiemen or want to play the blame game, that feedlots use a lot more water than rice.
Here's hoping you get some serious rain yet. "April showers bring May flowers" it's said.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Apr 19, 2014 - 11:47pm PT
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It hasta be.
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Apr 20, 2014 - 01:11am PT
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Suzie Creamcheese is hawt!
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MisterE
climber
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Apr 20, 2014 - 01:17am PT
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Monoculture is the bane of the agricultural revolution.
Just ask the bees.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Apr 20, 2014 - 03:29am PT
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I thought Mono culture was based on flies.
WTF?
(Water the food.)
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