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Marlow

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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 3, 2016 - 03:35pm PT

... and here's the picture documenting Jesperpus on the summit


His use of the Norwegian guide is hilarious... he was carried sleeping to the top...
Marlow

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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 4, 2016 - 02:29am PT

Sofia Karlsson - Spelmannen (lyrics: Dan Andersson)

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Marlow

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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 4, 2016 - 03:00am PT

Kalevala drawings by an Ukrainian or Russian artist:

Marlow

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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 10, 2016 - 02:45pm PT

Alongside poets Dan Andersson and Hans Børli, and singer/songwriter Sofia Karlsson, rock poet Joakim Thåström has an important role to play on the Finnskogen and Nordic woods thread.

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1.Främling överallt (Stranger everywhere)
2.Kort Biografi Med Litet Testamente (Short Biography With Small Testament)
3.Sönder Boulevard (Broken Boulevard)
phylp

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Upland, CA
Aug 10, 2016 - 06:59pm PT
Somehow I have missed this thread until now, Marlow. I will come back and enjoy it in full, soon.
Marlow

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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 11, 2016 - 01:02am PT

You're welcome, Phylp...
Marlow

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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 15, 2016 - 02:22am PT

Røykstue

Ten years ago, my mother's sister, Synnøve, was at a seminar where an expert told the participants that no one still alive had grown up in a "røykstue". Synnøve stood up and replied that she had grown up for the first ten years of her life in a "røykstue". Synnøve died recently, 91 years old.


The oven
Marlow

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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 15, 2016 - 02:33am PT

Slash-and-burn agriculture



One culture which flourished in pre-agricultural Europe survives: the Forest Finns in Scandinavia. Martin Tvengsberg, a descendant the Forest Finns, studied them in his capacity as curator of the Hedmark Museum in Norway. The Savo-Karelians had a sophisticated system for cultivating spruce forests. A runic poem about Finland's spruce forests reads, "Gåivu on mehdien valgoinen valhe" ("The birch is the forest’s white lie"). The best spruce forests reportedly contain birch trees, which grow only after a forest has burned once or twice.

Telkkämäki Nature Reserve in Kaavi, Finland, is an open-air museum which still practices slash-and-burn agriculture. Farm visitors can see how people farmed when slash-and-burn agriculture became the norm in the Northern Savonian region of eastern Finland beginning in the 15th century. Areas of the reserve are burnt each year.

Slash-and-burn agriculture was initially practiced by European pioneers in North America such as Daniel Boone and his family, who cleared land in the Appalachian Mountains during the late 18th and early 19th centuries. However, land cleared by slash-and-burn farmers was eventually taken over by systems of land tenure focusing on long-term improvement and discouraging practices associated with slash-and-burn agriculture.

Telkkämäki Heritage Farm

Marlow

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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 15, 2016 - 02:37am PT

Rye/Rie: The house where the rye was stored and dried. The oven is seen.

Marlow

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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 15, 2016 - 12:51pm PT

The strange story of the dialect spoken in Södra Finnskoga (Sweden).

Södra Finnskoga had a unique situation among the dialects of Värmland, Sweden. In Södra Finnskoga they have never spoken “värmländsk”. During the 1600s and the 1700s, Finnish was spoken. The connections they had from Södra Finnskoga went to Norway. They started speaking the Norwegian Solör-dialect. The forest owners of Södra Finnskoga went to Kristiania (Oslo, Norway) to sell their timber and get their payment. This went on a long time into the 1900s. When the school-children from Bograngen in Sweden was studying at “Karlstads läroverk” in Sweden, they had a long way to go to school. First they went, by car in summer and by horse in winter, to Flisa railway station in Norway, a distance of 30-40 km. And from Flisa they went by train to Kongsvinger (Norway), a distance of 50-60 km, then to Charlottenberg in Sweden, a distance of 40-50 km. And from Charlottenberg they finally ended up in Karlstad (Sweden), a distance of 110-120 km. Which totally gives a distance of around 250 km (155 miles) from Bograngen to school in Karlstad. In 1914, during wartime, Swedish schoolchildren had no passports. That made the passing of the border more complicated, but they were let through. Because of school, TV and radio the youth of Södra Finnskoga has more and more started speaking “rikssvenska” (statement from 1975). Source: Finnbygden nr.1, våren 1975.

Marlow

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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 21, 2016 - 07:10am PT

Viljo Vesterinen and Lasse Pihlajamaa v.1950 - Metsäkukkia (Forest Flowers)

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Mighty Hiker

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Outside the Asylum
Aug 21, 2016 - 09:28am PT
To think that I have cousins living within 50 km of Finnskogen, and all through that area on the Norwegian side, and had not heard of it before.

Marlow, what about Lars Anders of Forsstugan, who Axel Munthe memorably speaks about in The Story of San Michele? From a somewhat similar area, but much farther north.
Marlow

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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 21, 2016 - 12:38pm PT
Anders.

I don't know much about the story of Lars Anders of Forsstugan. Axel Munthe was an interesting person - doctor of a queen, a king and a tzar, author, traveller and so on.

"Axel Munthe was born in Oskarshamn, Sweden, his family's home. His family was originally of Flemish descent, and settled in Sweden during the 16th century.

Munthe began college in 1874 at Uppsala University. While travelling in Italy in 1875, Munthe sailed in a small boat from Sorrento to the island of Capri. Climbing the Phoenician stairs to the village of Anacapri, he came upon a peasant's house and the adjacent ruin of a chapel dedicated to San Michele, and was immediately captivated by the idea of rebuilding the ruin and turning it into a home.

Munthe studied medicine in Uppsala, Montpellier and Paris (where he was a student of Charcot), and graduated as M.D. in 1880 at the age of 23. Though his thesis was on the subjects of gynaecology and obstetrics, Munthe was deeply impressed by Professor Jean-Martin Charcot's pioneering work in neurology, having attended his lectures at the Salpêtrière hospital. He later had a falling out with Charcot, and left the Salpêtrière denouncing his former teacher's work on hypnotism as fraudulent and scientifically unsound."

If I remember right, Charcot had specialized in treating women for hysteria (Hysteria from Greek "Hystera" (Uterus)). Munthe followed a similar path and earned a fortune treating rich frustrated upperclass women for imagined colitis (that he diagnosed himself).

A Swedish book about a related theme a couple of hundred years earlier: Mikael Häll. Huldra, Näcken och Djävulen - erotic creatures in nature and demonic sexuality 1600-1700s Sweden.

In his book Munthe mentions "Skogsrået"/Huldra/The Lady of the forest.

"Her name derives from a root meaning “covered” or “secret”. The huldra is a stunningly beautiful, sometimes naked woman with long hair; though from behind she is hollow like an old tree trunk, and has an animal’s tail. She is the watcher of the forest and all of its creatures, and will not be kind to those who are cruel to her subjects.

Tales of huldra tell of her using her beautiful appearance and seductive charm to lure young men back to her cave, or subterranean home, where they may be kept aS slaves, lovers, or worse - depending on the tale. Sometimes the humans are released, but are cursed with the constant temptation to return to their captor. Other tales describe them getting married to humans, losing their tails, and becoming human themselves - but retaining their magic."

Rikesten, a man from Finnskogen known for his shamanic abilities, who lived the last years of his life in the house of my great grandparents in Rya, was telling a story about meeting Huldra by a water/lake at Finnskogen. After the incident, the water/lake was given the name "Huldretjern", a name that it still carries today. Huldra didn't seduce him, but told Rikesten to leave at once. He was fishing in her waters.





Huldra is said to have the ability to transform to different animals.


This is an ability she shares with Louhi, the main opponent of Vainamoinen in the Kalevala.

"Louhi (Finnish pronunciation: [ˈlouɦi]) is a queen of the land known as Pohjola in Finnish, Karelian and Lappish mythology. Louhi is probably an alter-ego of the goddess Loviatar.

Louhi is described as a powerful queen ruling over the northern realm of Pohjola, with the ability to change shape and weave mighty enchantments. She is also the main opponent of Väinämöinen and his group in the battle for the magical artifact Sampo in the Kalevala. She has a number of beautiful daughters, whom Ilmarinen, Lemminkäinen and other heroes attempt to win in various legends. Louhi sets them difficult to impossible tasks to perform in order to claim such a prize, which leads to the forging of the Sampo."

Louhi transforming to a bird:



And here is Rikesten at an old age:

Marlow

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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 21, 2016 - 12:55pm PT

The hulder I knew best during my childhood was "Tandberg Huldra 5", a great radio looking just like the one in the photo below (model 1956).

Marlow

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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 21, 2016 - 01:39pm PT

And in the age of the video: Here's Axel Munthe's Capri and The Story of San Michele

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For all I know, Reilly could have a photo he has taken in one of the localities seen in the video, showing a bottle of fine wine on one of the tables...
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Aug 21, 2016 - 02:03pm PT
Jo, Reilly har mange fotos fra Capri and he walked right by San Michele
without knowing of its connection to Skogland! It's no wonder he felt
such a strong attraction to Capri, not that it is short on other attributes.
Marlow

Sport climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 26, 2016 - 10:00am PT

Here is a video from Finnskogdagene 2016 and a story about Bjørn Waalberg's ancestors (in Norwegian)

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And then an old film from the land of slash-and burn (1937)

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Marlow

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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 4, 2016 - 08:25am PT

Finnskogen this weekend

Marlow

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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 4, 2016 - 08:27am PT

Wet weather this morning

Marlow

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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 14, 2016 - 08:57am PT

Dagny (Sofia Andersson, Sara Nilsson & Anna Malmström) - Nya Finnskogen | Folk You Sessions

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