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mouse from merced
Trad climber
merced, california
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May 27, 2012 - 08:27pm PT
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Major Bummer.
I was just reminded of Sir Ed's death. It's a Memorial Day thing.
All these last weeks I was wondering why we hadn't heard from the man.
I think he would be a bit sad.
I also remember a time when we thought we cared about earth stuff, you know, green and free from yuck.
Youngsters may want to hold your applause for the Indian.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
He is as eloquent as he ever was, just seldom seen or heard.
He could be a Sherpa, for our purposes, but he's got reservations about that.
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Jan
Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
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May 27, 2012 - 11:49pm PT
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Nepal has far worse problems than Everest to worry about. They could be in a state of civil war again by this time next year.
Nepal faces fresh turmoil after charter deadline missed
By Gopal Sharma | Reuters – 8 hrs ago
KATHMANDU (Reuters) - Nepal's warring political parties failed to meet a midnight deadline to agree on a new constitution on Sunday, plunging the Himalayan republic into further uncertainty, but the government moved quickly to defuse the crisis with a call for elections.
A new constitution was widely seen as crucial to ending the instability that has plagued Nepal since the end of a Maoist-led civil war in 2006 and subsequent overthrow of the monarchy, but it has been thwarted by demands for the country to be divided into states along ethnic lines.
The debate has sparked violent protests in recent weeks and ethnic groups have staged demonstrations near the parliament building where a Constituent Assembly of politicians had until Sunday night to end its haggling and agree on the charter.
Barsha Man Pun, a Maoist minister told reporters after an emergency cabinet meeting that the government had decided to hold another round of elections for the assembly - which has doubled as a parliament - on November 22.
"We had no other alternative," he told reporters. "We apologize for not being able to prepare the constitution."
Earlier, several partners in the ruling coalition stormed out of the cabinet meeting, decrying the Maoist's "unilateral" decision to set the country on course for fresh elections.
"The election will only add to the turmoil because the government did not take major political parties and all of its coalition partners into confidence," said Kapil Kafle, editor of the Nepal Samacharpatra daily.
More than a dozen people were injured after protesters tried to break a security cordon outside the parliament in Kathmandu, prompting police to baton charge the demonstrators and fire teargas, police spokesman Binod Singh said.
ETHNIC TENSION
Prolonged instability in Nepal, which sits on the source of rivers that supply water to millions in South Asia, could suck neighbors China and India into competition for influence there. Both are important donors and trade partners for Nepal, a poverty-stricken country dependent on aid and tourism.
Diplomats say that because of its political uncertainty Nepal has failed to exploit the export potential presented by the rapid growth of its giant neighbors, and investors have avoided the country. The economy grew by 3.5 percent last year, its lowest rate in four years.
The new constitution was to have been a key part of the peace deal struck with the Maoists to end their revolt.
However, the assembly missed several deadlines for the charter because of deep divisions over the number, boundaries and names of the nation's states.
The assembly is dominated by the Maoists, who waged their revolt on a pledge to empower the country's many ethnic groups after centuries of exclusion and discrimination.
The Maoists want the creation of up to 14 states named after ethnic groups, and are backed by several small Madhesi parties demanding an autonomous state in the country's southern plains.
"The demands for ethnic autonomy have become so strong that if they are not addressed they could lay the seeds for further conflict as happed in Sri Lanka and Aceh," said Kunda Dixit, editor of the Nepali Times weekly.
(Reporting by Gopal Sharma; Editing by John Chalmers)
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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May 28, 2012 - 03:00am PT
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Jan, thanks for keeping it real and up to date.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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May 28, 2012 - 07:18pm PT
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I agree with Jan.
They have far more pressing concerns.
This will be self regulating, and though I suspect a major cluster disaster will happen, it won't lessen the hordes.
And Ron, if the Swiss really all got along they wouldn't speak a half dozen different languages!
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Don Paul
Big Wall climber
Colombia, South America
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May 30, 2012 - 03:06pm PT
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/may/30/everest-mountaineer-crowding-hobby-tragedy?newsfeed=true
He spoke of encountering an "overweight French journalist – a small woman weighing around 80kg, who had used her entire supply of oxygen before she'd reached any height at all, and an American of Turkish origin who was carrying his bicycle with him because it had always been his dream to take it to the summit and insisted on fulfilling that dream at whatever cost".
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"As far as I could see a state of mass hysteria had broken out. Everyone was fixated on making it to the summit by 19 May or they faced the prospect of missing their chance for that season."
He said that when he returned to Kathmandu, "the hospitals were heaving with patients, most of whom were being treated for severe hypothermia and frost bite".
He issued a passionate plea to the Nepalese government to introduce stricter regulations to control both the flow of tourists and to filter out those not physically fit enough to do the climb.
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Vitaliy M.
Mountain climber
San Francisco
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May 30, 2012 - 03:29pm PT
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Send in Kruk and Kennedy.
One of the funniest comments on the thread. Imagine the internet-storm there would be if someone takes down the ladders!!! The look on their faces when they see a dude walking down the hill with a ladder as they approach the step would be priceless. Muhuhahaha too funny.
a dude carrying a bike up Everest...He should have enlisted in "SLEDS over Everest" dumb fool.
+100000
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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May 30, 2012 - 03:32pm PT
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It would have been even funnier if the sherpas had to help K & K down from the ladders. And for sure I wish them well.
The best thing would be to hire the sherpas to take down the ladders. Everest at present is more tragedy than comedy.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - May 30, 2012 - 04:20pm PT
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Consumerism or Death! Life just isn't worth it without shopping.
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michaeld
Sport climber
Sacramento
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May 30, 2012 - 04:28pm PT
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I'd do dirty to her hairy.
Wait what?
Is it morally defensible to use a Birkin's bag made by Hermes' as a poop tube?
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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May 30, 2012 - 04:34pm PT
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There's no such thing as a $100,000 handbag, only a $10 handbag that suckers are willing to pay $100,000 for. (OK, at a stretch the materials and workmanship might be worth $100.) A fine piece of performance art and social satire, although why it took $4 worth of gasoline to burn the thing is hard to understand.
Hopefully we won't later discover that the handbag manufacturer donated the thing, and is revelling in the publicity. But then, its sourcing practices probably could do with a closeup.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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May 30, 2012 - 05:50pm PT
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Probably burned a cheap knock-off (who's gonna know after it's burned?)
Could be interpreted as a statement against materialism but in all this excitement I can't remember if I shot 5 or 6, but seeing as how this a .44magnum , the most powerful handgun in the world, you gotta be asking yourself one thing, punk!
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - May 30, 2012 - 05:55pm PT
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You might have something Dingus. Keep in mind, both groups of clothing are also "functional." One has the function of keeping you warm and dry the other of getting the wearer laid. Both pretty important in my mind.
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ground_up
Trad climber
mt. hood /baja
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May 30, 2012 - 05:59pm PT
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This thread has gone from people suffering on Everest to hot gals in lingerie ....
I like it ... much nicer to look at than the frozen dead
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Fluoride
Trad climber
West Los Angeles, CA
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May 30, 2012 - 06:45pm PT
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Anders...it was a Birkin. The top of Hermes' line of accessories.
There is actually a wait list to get one...no, I'm not joking.
For her to burn a $100K bag in the name of "art", she should be stripped of the name "Eastwood" and forced to work an honest day's job in her life.
Spoiled brat.
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rectorsquid
climber
Lake Tahoe
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May 30, 2012 - 07:01pm PT
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For her to burn a $100K bag in the name of "art", she should be stripped of the name "Eastwood" and forced to work an honest day's job in her life.
As art, it sort of sucks. As a protest against consumerism, it might have worked. Burn it to show people that when a handbag that costs $100k is gone, it's no different from a handbag that costs $50.00 being gone. There is nothing intrinsically valuable in that handbag, just the cost of desire and elitism.
Maybe that's what they meant and just marketed their message wrong.
Dave
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Degaine
climber
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May 31, 2012 - 01:55am PT
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donini wrote:
One has the function of keeping you warm and dry the other of getting the wearer laid.
Victoria Secret lingerie keeps you warm and dry?
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Degaine
climber
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May 31, 2012 - 02:05am PT
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fluoride wrote:
For her to burn a $100K bag in the name of "art", she should be stripped of the name "Eastwood" and forced to work an honest day's job in her life.
Spoiled brat.
How do you know that she has not worked an honest day's job in her life? Back up one sec, how do you define an honest day's job? What do you do for a living that makes you so well suited to judge?
You seem pretty bitter, whether it be with regard to Ms. Eastwood, or Philo's blond-haired friend attempting Everest, and it's clearly not bringing out the best in you.
A lot of posters in here have vouched for you over the years and your high quality of character, don't prove them wrong with posts like the above or those about Jona.
If you really are so mad that you just can't help yourself, you might want to seek the services of a professional - counselor, psychologist, etc. (just a suggestion).
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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May 31, 2012 - 04:25am PT
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Hillary was guided right?
Of course it's dangerous and the clients should know that. Ironcially, climbing everest costs big bucks, guided or not, and everybody seems to use the fixed swag that the sherpas put up there particularly at the icefall and hillary step
So it's all guided more or less in my mind.
People, guided or not, fixate on the trophy status of the thing. That's their thing, It's not mine
Just the way it is. Not saying it's bad or good, just out of my interest
Peace
Karl
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slayton
Trad climber
Here and There
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May 31, 2012 - 05:44am PT
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For her to burn a $100K bag in the name of "art", she should be stripped of the name "Eastwood" and forced to work an honest day's job in her life.
Not knowing Whether she has worked an honest day's job in her life I still don't understand the difference. If she had worked enough to earn the pennies to buy it it's still just a superficial piece of consumerism crap that might look pretty.
Removing the means to how it was acquired the burning of it stands on it's own merits. It doesn't necessarily need to be about who is doing the burning so much as that which is being burned.
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