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lostinshanghai
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someplace
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Feb 23, 2011 - 03:01pm PT
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Fattrad:
“For the women of ST, you should appreciate this:
Jeff Jacoby (Boston Globe)
The despicable sexual attack on CBS correspondent Lara Logan in Cairo's Tahrir Square wasn't shocking at all.
According to a 2008 survey by the Egyptian Center for Women's Rights, 83% of native Egyptian women and 98% of women visiting from abroad have experienced public sexual harassment.
More than half the Egyptian women reported being molested every day. And contrary to popular belief, most of the victims were wearing modest Islamic dress.”
So mister propaganda. Let’s try this:
“For the women of ST, you should appreciate this:”
Jed Jacuby (Bustom Glub)
The despicable sexual attack on CBS correspondent Lara Logan in Cairo's Tahrir Square wasn't shocking at all.
According to a 1920, 1950, 1980, 2000, 2008, 2010 survey by the US Center for Women's Rights, 83% of native [that would be native Indians] but to include any US women born here or foreign visitors or not and 98% of women living here have experienced public as well as private [corporate] sexual harassment.
More than half [maybe a bit high but could be] the US women reported being molested every day [fathers, uncles, boyfriends and local rapists hiding in the trees when US women walk or do their planned exercise runs. And contrary to popular belief, most of the victims were wearing modest clothing or dress.
Hmmm?
Your brotherhood guess you really never belonged now that found out you are not one but volunteered, how many teens were raped in patrol cars or ask to perform a sex act in favor of not going to jail.
Go to www.meganslaw.ca.gov and look at the # and I mean #### of predators [sex not the aircraft] living across your street or in local area.
Look at our own lawmakers in Washington, sure you been around and talk, went to lunch with one in your party [so not to offend just the GOP but Democrats as well “Clinton’] at some time and now are being caught and resigning. And some were even married.
Oh and there is this: 40% of women report sexual harassment at work
By RON FRIEDMAN
05/28/2010 04:34
'Unfortunate' findings on Labor Ministry survey of 1,000 employees.
Forty percent of Israeli women have reported being sexually harassed at work, 43% of them in the past year, according to preliminary figures released Thursday from a survey by the Industry, Trade and Labor Ministry.
The survey revealed that 41% of Israeli women felt their workplace was not safe from sexual harassment. Three-quarters of the women who said they had been harassed, said the offender was a senior employee at the company, and 64% said the harassment had happened more than once.
In an interview with The Jerusalem Post, the ministry’s head of research and economics, Benny Pfefferman, said the figures had been compiled based on interviews with a representative sample of 1,000 women employees, across all the sectors of the workforce.
Guess what I am asking is what is your point? Is it because only half with the Israeli women.
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lostinshanghai
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someplace
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Feb 23, 2011 - 04:56pm PT
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Fatty
Really sorry to pick on you again.
Arnaud de Borchgrave is a propagandist/disinformation specialist. He once was a writer for the Washington Times run by Sun Myung Moon.
During a sermon, Rev. Moon asked any Jews present to raise their hands. When they did, he told them to repent for having killed Jesus and went on to explain that it was as an indemnity for this that 6 million Jews died during the Holocaust.
Funny you would agree with the analysis from Borchgrave or lack of Intel. Could be that you are not old enough to know the players.
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Hawkeye
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State of Mine
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Feb 23, 2011 - 05:46pm PT
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you girls both need far more help than you will receive here.....too many hormones today?
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Hawkeye
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State of Mine
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Feb 23, 2011 - 05:49pm PT
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i will AC, its better than yours and fattys butt grabbin fest....
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highcamp
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Boulder, CO
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Feb 23, 2011 - 05:58pm PT
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I wanted to pass along this NPR segment from today. The guest speaker is Michael Scheuer, former chief of the CIA's Osama bin Laden unit. The piece was supposed to be about his new bin Laden book, but it actually deals a lot more with the current state of Middle East politics, specifically the revolutionary movement within the Arab states and US strategy for the area, than it does bin Laden himself. Really, really interesting piece. The guy is a straight shooter, and tells it like it is - be it politically incorrect, or taboo, and I highly recommend you listen to it.
Here's a quote of his I copied down, it's regarding the western belief that Egypt's revolution will now result in some glowing America-friendly democracy:
"CNN, FOX, and BBC, in the entire square in Cairo, made an 18 day business of interviewing well groomed, professional, upper-middle class, English-speaking Egyptians. Were they the sign of the future? Do they represent 80 million Egyptians? My bet is they're a thin veneer on top of a very pious Muslim nation [pious = devoutly religious]. In addition, outside of Mubarek's government, the only organization that can really govern the country is the Muslim Brotherhood. ... In some ways Americans are almost Marxist in their belief in the inevitability of the triumph of their political system. … It has escaped me why we believe that 80 million Egyptians in a time of chaos, and perhaps violence and turmoil would reach for an alien ideology - secularism - rather than a thousand year old faith."
Very well spoken guy. I'd love to hear your thoughts.
http://www.kqed.org/a/forum/R201102231000
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Feb 23, 2011 - 06:24pm PT
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Remember this guy?
the Google exec who was supposed to be the face of a secular fight for freedom in Egypt.
He was supposed to speak last Friday at the square.
Well it seems that this guy,
Objected to the idea and the young idealist was hustled off the stage by The mad Mullahs goons hiding with his head wrapped in an Egyptian flag.
(at least they let him live!)
Then these festivities ensued.
http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/2815.htm
So, the Brotherhood has hijacked the revolution.
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corniss chopper
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breaking the speed of gravity
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Feb 23, 2011 - 06:53pm PT
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Dingus -If you think Islam is about PEACE then you are not paying attention.
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corniss chopper
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breaking the speed of gravity
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Feb 23, 2011 - 06:57pm PT
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Majid_S
Mountain climber
Bay Area , California
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 24, 2011 - 12:31pm PT
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Fatty
Are you ready for Saudi kingdom to fall down taking Bush and associates along with them ?
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Majid_S
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Bay Area , California
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 24, 2011 - 01:22pm PT
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/02/24/AR2011022401740.html
DUBAI, United Arab Emirates -- Saudi Arabia's rulers answered the Arab world's winter of rage with money: throwing $36 billion into housing and other social assistance channels in attempts to quell rumblings of dissent. Iran's president offered more bombast as Tehran tries to project sympathy for protesters.
The two approaches this week - largesse versus rhetoric - captures the style and stakes for the region's heavyweight rivals as Iran hunts for gains and Saudi tries hard to stamp out any threats.
Already, the region has been reshaped by the fall of decades-old regimes and growing pressures on others, including Moammar Gadhafi's 42-year rule in Libya. But the ultimate questions for many are whether the pro-Western Saudi monarchy can ride out the unrest, and if Iran will capitalize on the changes with more footholds and influence in areas closely tied to Washington's interests.
"If an uprising occurs in Saudi Arabia, it will have a dramatic impact that is off the charts," said Theodore Karasik, a regional affairs expert at the Dubai-based Institute for Near East and Gulf Military Analysis. "Policymakers will have to grapple with it for decades."
Both nations have been touched by the region's two-month-old turmoil: Iran with a renewal of street clashes and Saudi's rulers facing rare challenges to their absolute power, including a call for protests March 11.
Their responses, meanwhile, have reflected their mutual suspicions and their own survival instincts.
Saudi authorities have stood strongly behind Bahrain's Sunni monarchy, which is under siege by a revolt from that tiny kingdom's Shiite majority after decades of grievances over discrimination and other abuses. For the Saudis - and the rest of the Gulf's Sunni rulers - the Shiites in Bahrain represent a potential beachhead for Shiite powerhouse Iran.
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On Wednesday, Bahrain's monarch held urgent talks in neighboring Saudi Arabia with King Abdullah only hours after he returned home from recuperating from back surgery. In a clear sign of concern, Abdullah made the decree for the flood of cash into social programs and bank funds even before his plane touched down from Morocco.
Social media sites have been buzzing with appeals for a pro-reform march next month and calls for more freedoms, including lifting some of the strict limits on women such as bans on driving and voting. Activists also are pushing for the release of university professors jailed for forming a political party.
"We are witnessing a rebellion of the Arab peoples throughout the Arab world," said Nicholas Burns, Nicholas Burns, a former top State Department diplomat with long experience in the region. "While it may be most acute in Bahrain and Libya, there is every reason to believe that it will continue to spread for the time being."
Iran, meanwhile, has shown again its split personality. Its leaders, including President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, have portrayed Iran as a sort of father figure for the pro-democracy movements, which they claim have taken inspiration from its Islamic Revolution against the U.S.-backed shah.
At the same time, Iranian authorities are showing no mercy to oppositions groups in a country rejuvenated by the chain-reaction uprisings. Protesters' chants were similar to those during the chaos after Ahmadinejad's disputed elections in 2009, but with a current twist.
Ben Ali, Mubarak, it's Seyed Ali's turn," protesters cried last week, linking the toppled Tunisian and Egyptian presidents with Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. Riot police moved in with tear gas and batons.
"It is unimaginable that there is someone who kills and bombards his own people. This is very grotesque," Ahmadinejad said Wednesday on national TV after Gadhafi's forces attacked protesters.
More than once, the Obama administration and others have taken jabs at Tehran's "hypocrisy."
But Western policy makers cannot so easily dismiss the prospect that Iran could come out of the Mideast shake-ups with some new opportunities - just as the U.S.-led wars in Iraq and Afghanistan cleared the way for Iran gaining major influence with Shiite brethren.
One longtime foe, Hosni Mubarak, is gone. Egypt's emerging political class, which includes Islamist groups, is unlikely to be so tightly glued to U.S. policies on Iran. The Shiite-led uprising in Bahrain and relentless pressure on the American-allied president in Yemen also could hand Iran some new political space in the region.
And any significant cracks in the king's hold on Saudi Arabia, which has a small Shiite minority, would undoubtedly be hailed by Tehran.
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Iran sent two warships through the Suez Canal this week for the first time since the 1979 Islamic Revolution on a voyage to Syria that could take the vessels just outside Israeli waters.
Iran's plans for the Mediterranean were announced before Egypt's protests threatened Mubarak's regime. But it was a significant display of Tehran's confidence and efforts to expand its military reach beyond the Gulf, where the Bahrain-based U.S. 5th Fleet is the Pentagon's main counterweight.
Iran's Revolutionary Guard sent ships on a courtesy call to Qatar in January and held navy maneuvers with Oman this month in further signs of expanding ties in the Gulf.
The Dubai-based analyst Karasik said Iran increasingly views itself "as a pure regional hegemon because of the uprisings."
"They're taking advantage of the strategic change," he said.
It also suggests that Washington's clout could be slipping as its old-guard friends fall way or face demands for serious political overhauls.
"The rising tide of people power is so intense that the Middle East will either become democratic or will come under more stern control," said Ehsan Ahrari, a regional analyst and commentator based in Alexandria, Virginia. "Either way, the days of U.S. capabilities to influence events seem to be numbered."
There is still no clear signal about how far the protest wave with reach. The next test may come in Kuwait, where the nation's strong opposition groups have called for rallies outside parliament on March 8.
Many experts see a messy interregnum in the region with various groups competing for the upper hand and international investors running scared. The only obvious takeaway so far is that the political voices in the new Mideast will be far younger, deeply Web savvy and come in greater varieties - all of which could alter the rules of the Saudi-Iran standoff that has defined the region for decades.
The players include Egypt's once-outlawed Muslim Brotherhood and Bahrain's majority Shiites who have long been under the thumb of the kingdom's Sunni rulers.
"There will be trial and error in the combat for a new era," said Labib Kamhawi, a political analyst in Jordan. "But people, especially the young generation, seem strong and determined to succeed."
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philo
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Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Feb 24, 2011 - 01:40pm PT
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http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/opinion/2011/02/2011224141158174266.html
The PA should dissolve itself in a similar manner by announcing that the responsibilities delegated to it by Israel are being handed back to the occupying power, which must fulfill its duties under the Fourth Geneva Convention of 1949.
This would not be a surrender. Rather, it would be a recognition of reality and an act of resistance on the part of Palestinians who would collectively refuse to continue to assist the occupier in occupying them. By removing the fig leaf of "self-governance" masking and protecting from scrutiny Israel's colonial and military tyranny, the end of the PA would expose Israeli apartheid for all the world to see.
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Majid_S
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Bay Area , California
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 24, 2011 - 02:50pm PT
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Fatty
I do not understand why you think Israel is the solution to ME problem. IMO along with 1/4 world, Israeli is the biggest ME's problem.
Edit to add ; Feds just took the Saudi student in cause he was going after the kind and all this BS terrorist sticker do not really sticks to a anti Saudi king blogger.
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bluering
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Santa Clara, CA
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Feb 24, 2011 - 08:13pm PT
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Who?
That what Obama's (and Farrkhan's and Jeremiah Wright's)buddy Gaddafi calls him. He's a muslim son of Africa according to Gaddafi.
He's a birther!!!! Unholy!
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Mighty Hiker
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Feb 24, 2011 - 08:14pm PT
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You consider Qaddafi a reliable source about anything? Really?
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Feb 24, 2011 - 08:22pm PT
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You consider Qaddafi a reliable source about anything? Really?
No I don't. I was just using Gaddafi's words for a couple of different reasons.
EDIT:
So Bleuy...
What is Obama supposed to do?
What did he do with Egypt?
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Feb 24, 2011 - 08:34pm PT
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At this point I'm very inclined to say kill Gaddafi. He's slaughtering civis into the thousands according to some. He's used his airforce to attack 'rebels'. Some would say protesters.
Send a public message that the U.S. doesn't support this and will use air assets to monitor and maintain air-control until sh#t settles down. The Libyan Air Force has pretty much bailed. With the lack of major surface-to-air resources we could control the skies initially.
Use GlobalHawks and SATs to find the rat. Use B1's, B2's, or whatever to take him out.
Question is, what then? Would the UN step in until elections? The E.U.?
We can't.
EDIT: Matt you're sh#t is tiresome. Can't you look it up? I'm sure a genius like you wouldn't have to.
He condemned the US ally Mubarak and hailed the frenzied protesters as 'youth seeking a new life', or some sh#t.
Where is he here???? NO F*#KING COMMENT????
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cintune
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the Moon and Antarctica
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Feb 24, 2011 - 08:45pm PT
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Saudi Arabian King To Populace: "Don't Even Think About It"
RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA—In a televised speech addressing the pro-democracy protests currently sweeping across the Middle East, King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia reiterated that the people of his country should not even think about it. "Get it out of your heads right now," the king said in a firm, unwavering tone of voice while staring directly into the camera. "I'm serious. Whatever you are thinking about doing, it’s not gonna end up good for you. Trust me." The king then widened his eyes, paused, and added, "No."
http://www.theonion.com/articles/saudi-arabian-king-to-populace-dont-even-think-abo,19302/
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