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WBraun
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Here's another nice one,
"It has been public knowledge for years in Washington DC that the CIA working with agents at FBI HQ intentionally, deliberately and knowing allowed the al Qaeda terrorists to carry out the attacks on 9/11 which resulted in the murder of almost 3000 people.
It is unfortunately only the Americans public that has not been made aware of this information.
It not like the CIA and FBI HQ actually wanted thousands of Americans to die in these attacks.
But people at the CIA and FBI HQ knew that if FBI Agent Steve Bongardt’s investigation of Mihdhar and Hazmi was not shut down, and Bongardt ultimately got the photo of Walid Bin Attash taken at the Kuala Lumpur al Qaeda planning meeting, Bongardt would have realized that his team investigating the Cole bombing had been criminally obstructed by the CIA and FBI HQ agents and many people at both the CIA and FBI HQ would have gone to prison for many years.
The people at these agencies were just trying to stay out of prison, and it was unfortunate that thousands of Americans had to die to make sure they would not go jail. The CIA tried desperately to keep the fact secret that Walid Bin Attash had been identified in a photo taken at Kuala Lumpur, on January 4, 2001 by the joint FBI/CIA source, and then these agencies carried out many actions to criminally obstruct the FBI criminal investigation of the Cole bombing to hide this information in order to hide the CIA’s culpability in the al Qaeda attack on the USS Cole."
I like how some of these so called people who say it could not possible happen like this keep making excuses for the "experts".
They love experts .....
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monolith
climber
Berkeley, CA
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Hey Rob, did you ever get your medical back?
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johndoeX
Social climber
NY
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"Monolith"
See Claim 1 here, Einstein.
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=7163
Then try to use some of your research ability, as hard as it may be for you.
You tell us, is my medical renewed?
What is my address? (you can find that too in the above link).
Monolith, are you going to be a typical govt story supporter and only ask questions while evading all those asked of you?
Second time asked... Who are you?
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Port
Trad climber
San Diego
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You guys are getting your conspiracies missed up.
1.) The Gov intentionally allowed the attacks to happen
or
2.) The Gov. faked the attacks and planted bombs to bring down the towers...and shot a missile into the pentagon.
so which is it?
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WBraun
climber
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Number one it is ....
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monolith
climber
Berkeley, CA
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Rob, how many people have you banned from your forums today?
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johndoeX
Social climber
NY
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None....
Second time asked -
You tell us, is my medical renewed?
What is my address? (you can find that too in the above link).
Monolith, are you going to be a typical govt story supporter and only ask questions while evading all those asked of you?
Third time asked... Who are you?
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monolith
climber
Berkeley, CA
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Sorry Rob, can't reveal that. Part of the deal for working with the NWO.
If nothing else you are persistent, day in, day out, for years. What a sucky life.
I bow to your persistence.
I'm sure the Truthers here have many questions and accolades for you.
Carry on.
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Let's find out. we don't really know. I suspect number one but they could have even planted the idea with Al Queda via a mole
kind of late after the fact that these guys call BS on a report they authored, dontchathink? ask RJ he thinks a lot.
So what does that mean. It's a lot easier to blow the whistle or figure out that your lies aren't flying once the president at the time is out of power. You don't mess with this stuff eh?
Some of these guys (like Hamilton) are trotted out any time they need a credible cover-up legislator. They wanted Kissinger to head the commission but the public didn't buy it. Hamilton opted not to investigates arms for hostages with Iran, was on the Iraq Study Group, investigated Los Alamos and they use him when they need a democrat to rollover and ignore corruption
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_H._Hamilton
Here's his article on being stonewalled by the CIA
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/02/opinion/02kean.html?_r=1
Some excerpts
"..The commission’s mandate was sweeping and it explicitly included the intelligence agencies. But the recent revelations that the C.I.A. destroyed videotaped interrogations of Qaeda operatives leads us to conclude that the agency failed to respond to our lawful requests for information about the 9/11 plot. Those who knew about those videotapes — and did not tell us about them — obstructed our investigation...."
"...As a result of this January meeting, the C.I.A. agreed to pose some of our questions to detainees and report back to us. The commission concluded this was all the administration could give us. But the commission never felt that its earlier questions had been satisfactorily answered. So the public would be aware of our concerns, we highlighted our caveats on page 146 in the commission report.
As a legal matter, it is not up to us to examine the C.I.A.’s failure to disclose the existence of these tapes. That is for others. What we do know is that government officials decided not to inform a lawfully constituted body, created by Congress and the president, to investigate one the greatest tragedies to confront this country. We call that obstruction...."
That's just one of the issues and one of the more minor
Peace
Karl
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WBraun
climber
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Whistle blowing ......???
"What good would that do?
The Obama administration has said they are not going back to pursue the crimes of the Bush administration. Besides they need Republican votes on some issues to pass the legislation.
And besides this information already has been public knowledge in Washington DC and has been for years. This is all but an open secret in Washington DC. This is how the place works."
"HELLO"
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johndoeX
Social climber
NY
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"Monolith" writes - **"Jul 2, 2010 - 02:43pm PT
If nothing else you are persistent, day in, day out, for years. What a sucky life."**
Yet you know who I am on my first post here in almost 4 years, and I havent a clue (nor could care less), who you are...
Go outside, get some fresh air, as clearly you'll never learn anything close to a Vg diagram, let alone aircraft envelopes.
Be sure to keep an eye on the list.,. it grows regularly...
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/core
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Anyway, isn't it true that RokJox, Klimmer et al are all in on the conspiracy, and in fact their ranting here is another false flag operation, to distract us from what really happened?
It was, of course, all because of the space aliens in the ark on the backside of the Moon. And maybe the Illuminati.
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Port
Trad climber
San Diego
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More importantly....do you climb?
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WBraun
climber
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Oh oh .....
"The official story cannot be recreated by any experiment.
NIST is the government agency involved in attempting to model what happened to the world trade center on 9/11, and they fail horribly.
NIST never models what happens after the collapse initiation, and even what they do model before that is easily debunked."
“There's no such thing as a 'pancake' collapse, but there is a progressive collapse”
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johndoeX
Social climber
NY
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Port asks - Jul 2, 2010 - 03:03pm PT
More importantly....do you climb?
At more than 10,000 feet per minute at times... :-)
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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OMG! Monolith was RIGHT.
It IS a proud day for me.
The co-founder of Pilots For 911 Truth !!!!
4000TT Commercial, Instrument, Multi, CFI II MEI
Corporate Chief Pilot
135 Capt
121 FO Independence Air/Atlantic Coast Airlines
King Air C-90/200, Dornier 328JET
A Celebrity! And a Pilot of the Big Boys.
i think rj just creamed his keyboard
thanks johndoe for brightening RJ's day. it was getting so sad around here.....
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WBraun
climber
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"Giuliani was appointed U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York in 1983. “So he knew a thing or two about criminal investigation procedures."
Knowing that, one has to wonder why he “sent more than 99% of the steel from the WTC to China and Korea in violation of proper chain of evidence.”
Not only that, it was sent overseas at a price undercutting a New Jersey company. A company in New Jersey offered to pay $0.56 per ton, but it was sent out of the country to be smelted before experts could analyze the steel for signs of explosives for $0.50 per ton.
Giuliani is clearly one of the perpetrators behind the crimes of 9/11, and he was confronted recently by a truth squad led by Luke Rudkowski.
They wanted to know why his story has changed five times about his activities on the morning of 9/11."
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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JohnDoeX,
Thanks for being here.
Just one question from me (ok, maybe 2) . . .
Q: Can a Boeing 757 going at the official posted speeds for AA Flight 77 on 9-11 fly into the Pentagon along the OCT path through the lightpoles and then eventually and obviously just mere feet above the ground, yet not touch the spot-less "Pentalawn" not be affected by Ground Effect? Or another way of asking, Is it actually possible to cruise a Commercial Airliner at near top speeds just a few feet above the ground where it would encounter Ground Effect for any real distance?
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